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ARC TBC................John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:06 pm
by Bibliogirl
Got the death certs from Dudley, and looks like a hit on one:

Sarah Dunn
Died 27 July 1843, Netherton
Age 66 years
Wife of John Dunn laborer
Pneumonia
The mark of Sophia Barnsley in attendance, Derby End

John Dunn
Died 24 Oct 1843, Netherton
Age 74 years
Nailer
Stroke
The mark of Hannah Dunn present at the death, Netherton

Not sure if these two were the couple John and Sarah. I'll go back and look at the data again and see if we had a Hannah anywhere, but it looks like a hit on Sarah Dunn!

Still waiting on the death cert for Sophia Barnsley.

Re: John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:12 pm
by Bibliogirl
Hannah could have either been a "spinster" daughter, but more likely the wife of John's son James per BCC.

Re: John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:50 am
by Northern Lass
Brilliant !! well done BG

I will add that so looks good for moment as we have it on Bcc
we have sophia as dau of John and sarah

and Jesse as son of sophia
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =797282383

Re: John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:57 am
by Northern Lass
1841 Upper Netherton, Dudley
John Dunn 70 lab
Sarah Dunn 70
William Dunn 35
Sarah Dunn 25


Could there be another JOhn or Sarah that would fit the death certifs?
or do we think it is this couple above

1841 CENSUS
At Darby Hand, Dudley
Sophia Barnsley 35 Shoe Binder
Elizabeth Barnsley 7
Noah Barnsley 6
Eliza Barnsley 2

Re: John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:17 am
by Northern Lass
BG is that year correct should it be 1849? or 1847

as I thought the one in 1843 was one aged 7

can you have a check pls on certif does it say 1843? for John

cos I got these notes..

not the 1843 death looked up at archives.....This one in 1843 wasw aged 7 so not ours..
St Andrew Netherton John DUNN Netherton Died 27 Oct 1843 Buried 27 Oct 1843 Age 7yrs reg at St Andrew

There is this one
1847
DUNN John Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/017/406
but needs to be aged between 60+-70+ as aged 70 on census

and this one
1849
DUNN John Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/020/458

Re: John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:19 pm
by Bibliogirl
I know, the dates suprised me too!

I just triple checked and they both are from 1843

Sarah, 27 Jul 1843, Netherton, age 66
John, 24 Oct 1843, Netherton, age 74

The handwriting is very clear on both of them.

Re: John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:23 pm
by Bibliogirl
Northern Lass wrote:Brilliant !! well done BG

I will add that so looks good for moment as we have it on Bcc
we have sophia as dau of John and sarah

and Jesse as son of sophia
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =797282383


Yes, while it is all circumstantial evidence, i am becoming more convinced that Jesse is the son of Sophia...born out of wedlock, and that's why we can't find a christening, a father John a gardener, and his son named Henry...possibly after Sophia's husband later in life.

Re: John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:28 pm
by Bibliogirl
Northern Lass wrote:1841 Upper Netherton, Dudley
John Dunn 70 lab
Sarah Dunn 70
William Dunn 35
Sarah Dunn 25


Could there be another JOhn or Sarah that would fit the death certifs?
or do we think it is this couple above

1841 CENSUS
At Darby Hand, Dudley
Sophia Barnsley 35 Shoe Binder
Elizabeth Barnsley 7
Noah Barnsley 6
Eliza Barnsley 2


And yes, i think these are probably our John and Sarah, given the Netherton, and his age matches. It is possible that whoever provided the census data thought John and Sarah were about the same age. However, i'll do some more John Dunn searches for that birth year to see what comes up.

Re: John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:47 pm
by Northern Lass
did you order it from the dudley registry office or the GRo
does it have a ref on

just I can only see one on free bmd
Deaths Dec 1843
DUNN John Dudley 18 187

1843
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
DUNN John Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/010/4

does it have a date for the registrars signature is the year 1843 there?

just that note we have for that burial is confusing :?

Re: John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:51 pm
by Bibliogirl
Yes, ordered from Dudley.

Thomas Allen was the registrar for both.

John Dunn's was registered on 26 Oct 1843.

Sarah Dunn's was registered on 29 Jul 1843.

I don't see any numbers on the copy except in the far left...no. 4 for John and no. 325 for Sarah.

Re: John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death certs

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:02 am
by Northern Lass
Bibliogirl wrote:Yes, ordered from Dudley.

Thomas Allen was the registrar for both.

John Dunn's was registered on 26 Oct 1843.

Sarah Dunn's was registered on 29 Jul 1843.

I don't see any numbers on the copy except in the far left...no. 4 for John and no. 325 for Sarah.


thanks Bg going to recheck that st andrew one at archives that looks good then for JOhn will add that in

ok to archive this one of John and Sarah?
we can start a new thread for sophia when you get certif

Re: ARC TBC................John Dunn and Sarah Dunn death ce

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:06 pm
by Bibliogirl
Yes, please archive.

Happy holidays!