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ARC TBC - Jane Ann Fulham Griffiths Thorne

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:52 pm
by Jay77
Hi everyone, I"™m looking for my gt gt grandmother Jane Ann born in Limerick Ireland about 1858.

I don"™t know when she came to Birmingham her name listed on my gt grandmother birth cert is Jane Ann Fulham but my Nan thinks she was married three times ( she has been very accurate :P ).

She married my gt gt Father Thomas Griffiths (dob c1850 dod jun1897) in Jan 1883 Registered as Griffies.

They had four children

1/ Frances Griffiths dob c. 1887 dod unknown.
She was possibly married twice.

Frances daughter Ada Aisne Connor (her middle name is a major ww1battle, maybe a clue to Frances"™ first husband?) Married Reginald William Latchford. They had three sons David 1949 Robert 1951 and Peter 1952, all three played football that"™s how I found them. (Ada married Reg, it seemed unclear)

Her other daughter Elsie married Jim they had two daughters Elsie and Ginny both were born before ww2.

Her son was named Bob he married Margaret.

She may have had three more children

2/ Elsie May my gt grandmother I already know about.

3/George John dob c. 1892 He may have lived in Castle Bromich.

4/Robert Henry Griffiths dob 1899 dod 1918 died ww1 no family.

Jane Ann married James Thorne in 1904.
She was listed as a widow on the 1911 census, all the children except Frances were there too, including Elsie May"™s Husband Fred.
Jane Thorne lived in Watery Lane Aston alone in 1922.
She died in march 1934 age 76.
I would really like to know Jane Ann"™s maiden name.

Re: Jane Ann Fulham Griffiths Thorne

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:00 am
by MarkCDodd
Do you have the marriage cert for 1883 and if so, is she listed as a widow?

No clue as to fathers name on the certificate?

If she put Fulham down as her name on the birth certificate then you have to assume that is her maiden name even if she was married previously.

Re: Jane Ann Fulham Griffiths Thorne

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:14 am
by MarkCDodd
This is good chance of being Jane's family.

John Jame's occupation is Carriers Agent and he was born in Kingston on Hull, Yorkshire

His wife was born in Manchester, Lancashire.

They are in Warwickshire and some of their children were born in Ireland.

1871 census transcription details for: Dale End, Birmingham

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3108
Folio: 34
Page: 5
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: St Peter
Parish: Birmingham
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: Dale End, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
FULHAM, John James Head M 32 1839 Yorkshire
FULHAM, Mary Ann Wife F 32 1839 Lancashire
FULHAM, Frank E Son M 8 1863 Ireland
FULHAM, Earl St Vincent Son M 4 1867 Warwickshire
FULHAM, Louisa Victoria Daughter F 1 1870 Warwickshire
BROOKS, Emily Servant F 17 1854 Warwickshire

Re: Jane Ann Fulham Griffiths Thorne

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:18 am
by MarkCDodd
Except they were married before Jane Ann's supposed birth date...

Civil Registration event: Marriage
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Name: FULLAM, John James
Registration district: Macclesfield
County: Cheshire
Year of registration: 1861
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 8A
Page no: 201

MarriageFinder: John James Fullam married one of the following people:

CHADWICK, Mary Anne

SNELSON, Elizabeth

AKIN, Thomas

Re: Jane Ann Fulham Griffiths Thorne

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:36 pm
by Jay77
I only have Elsie May's birth cert, we are working on a buget.
I don't know if they are related to Jane Ann as her parents, they may have grown up children but Jane Ann had her second child in 1889.

Re: Jane Ann Fulham Griffiths Thorne

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:51 pm
by BC Wench
You say that on Elsie May's birth certificate it states Jane Ann Fulham. Does it actually say Jane Ann GRIFFITHS formerly FULHAM and does it also give Elsie May's father's name?

Re: Jane Ann Fulham Griffiths Thorne

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:23 pm
by Jay77
BC Wench wrote:You say that on Elsie May's birth certificate it states Jane Ann Fulham. Does it actually say Jane Ann GRIFFITHS formerly FULHAM and does it also give Elsie May's father's name?
yes it does giving fathers name Thomas Griffiths I have their marriage online under the name Griffies.

Re: Jane Ann Fulham Griffiths Thorne

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:17 pm
by BC Wench
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

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