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Hi,
I am interested in Phoebe (Phebe) Steventon she is my 3x great grandmother. I have a copy of her marriage certificate so the information that I am sure of is:-
She married David Lowe 13th October 1839, her residence at that time Black Heath in the parish of Rowley Regis. Her father was
William Steventon (deceased) he was a miner. David's father was David Lowe he was a nailer. Witnessed by Henry Harvey and Kaziah Blackham.
I am trying to find out if Phoebe's father William is the same William Steventon hanged for murder. In the 1871 census Phoebe's place of birth
is Oldbury, I know the details in 1871 are correct and I have the right person. Does anyone have any information or give me any clues as to where I could look for information. I don't know the area and sometimes it comes under Worcestershire and sometimes Staffordshire, very confusing.

Thanks for any help
Ruth

The Staffs & Worcs Border runs through Blackheath & Oldbury was in Halesowen Worcs untiil 1844. Have you searched for William's Death Certificate? Linell.

also on Bcc here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =567574182

Hi Northern Lass
Thanks for moving my question to the correct forum. I am new to this.
Ruth

Ruthie wrote:Hi,
I am interested in Phoebe (Phebe) Steventon she is my 3x great grandmother. I have a copy of her marriage certificate so the information that I am sure of is:-
She married David Lowe 13th October 1839, her residence at that time Black Heath in the parish of Rowley Regis. Her father was
William Steventon (deceased) he was a miner. David's father was David Lowe he was a nailer. Witnessed by Henry Harvey and Kaziah Blackham.
I am trying to find out if Phoebe's father William is the same William Steventon hanged for murder. In the 1871 census Phoebe's place of birth
is Oldbury, I know the details in 1871 are correct and I have the right person. Does anyone have any information or give me any clues as to where I could look for information. I don't know the area and sometimes it comes under Worcestershire and sometimes Staffordshire, very confusing.

Thanks for any help
Ruth

hi Ruth I will add in your username in notes on the BCC (Black Country Connections) tree might help if anyone connects
and sees it they can contact you via forum

Hi Ruth have you seen here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =945599881

there is a link to an article

I think we surmised that it was that Wm.....but only our thoughts..

Hi Northern Lass
Thanks for the information, I am 90% sure I have the correct person but there is another William Steventon that I keep
coming across which made me doubt the information I have.
Ruth

will move this to Brickwalls Ruthie

post which one you think it may be

There seems to be a Pheobe Steventon born 1817 in Oldbury, parents William and Elizabeth.
Did this Phoebe marry David Lowe? Is this the Phoebe in my family tree?

None of us can tell you who your Phoebe is Ruth, something you have to decide for yourself, by collecting all the available information on the family, in the end you have to make an estimated guess, or leave it open with a red flag. Linell.

the person who was hung was william sugar billy steventon who was born in oldbury his wife later married into the harvey familiy

I have found information on William (Billy sugar) Steventon, but I don't know how to
be sure that it was his daughter Pheobe that married David Lowe. Although in the 1871
census they have a John and Sarah Harvey living with them but the birth dates are 1800 and
1878 which do not seem to be right.

Ruthie wrote:I have found information on William (Billy sugar) Steventon, but I don't know how to
be sure that it was his daughter Pheobe that married David Lowe. Although in the 1871
census they have a John and Sarah Harvey living with them but the birth dates are 1800 and
1878 which do not seem to be right.

So we have marriage here

Marriage info
13 October 1839 St Thomas Dudley
-David Lowe- of full age- bach- miner- Blackheath Parish of Rowley Regis- David Lowe - nailer
-Phebe Steventon- minor- spinster- Blackheath- William Steventon- deceased- miner
-banns
-X both
-Wit - Henry Harvey X /Keziah Blackham? X

father for her Wm Steventon

possible bapt would need tbc
IGI
Pheobe Steventon Christening: 11 NOV 1821 Oldbury, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: William Steventon
Mother: Sarah Steventon Source Information:
Batch No I010840

1861 Susan Harvey with David Lowe and Phebe

Phebes mother marries John Harvey in 1829

Then looks like mother Sarah is living with dau Phebe ages bit out but that happens on census

1871: Halesowen St, Rowley Regis
David Lowe 56 Head Nailer
Phoebe Lowe 52 Wife
Thomas W Lowe 15 Son Coalminer
Phoebe E Lowe 5 Dau
Joseph Harris 36 Lodger Marr Nailer
Sarah Harris 26 Wife Nailer
David Harris 6 Son
Elizabeth Harris 4 Dau
Joseph Harris 1 Son
John Harvey 71 Lodger M Collier Oldbury, Worc
Sarah Harvey 84 Wife Tipton, Staffs

1861: Powke Lane, Rowley Regis Sch 126
Ambrus Harvey 25 Head Miner Coal
Eliza Harvey 26 Oldbury
William Harvey 2 Son Oldbury
Poss same house...
at Sch 127
John Harvey 50 Head Miner Coal Oldbury
Sarah Harvey 66 Wife Tipton, Staffs
Harriet Harvey 7 Dau Oldbury