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Hi, many will recall (especially Jan and Jimmy) that I have been trying to find the details of the death of my gt gt grandfather, John Guest (see below), and I am awaiting a certificate that may finally provide the information being sought.

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However, although he died young, on the certificate of his marriage to my gt gt grandmother, Ann Maria Hughes (nee Kendrick) he is shown as a widower, so I have been looking for his previous marriage also .

I have now found a (IGI) record on the familysearch website which shows the marriage of a John Guest to a Selvey Tilley on 9 December 1855 (father Benjamin Guest - which is the right name). The bride's father is shown as James Tilley and he and his family are shown on BCC.

I have also found a BMD record of the death of a Sylvia Guest in the Sep qtr of 1857 (Dudley 6c 13) and a burial record on FreeReg of the burial of a Sylvia Guest in the graveyard of St Andrew's Church, Netherton on 30 September 1857 (abode: Windmill End) .

Sylvia's family is shown in the 1861 census living in Windmill End, comprising Phobe Tilley (widow) plus four children (Jane, James, Josiah and Ephraim). BMD records were found of the death of a James Tilley in the Dudley Districts in June quarter 1855 (6c 14) and December quarter 1858 (6c { 3}.

Circumstantially it all seems to hang together but any help to 'prove' these are the right records would be greatfully received.

Regards....H

Hi,

After my first post I looked again at the FreeReg site and there discovered a record of the burial of a James Tilley in St Andrews, Netherton on 24 October 1858, age 54 years; abode - Windmill End, Rowley.

Looks like him

H.

H, would this have any connection at all to your Tilley's

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mallosa wrote:H, would this have any connection at all to your Tilley's

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This photo got me going. I will start a new thread for these two: James Tilley and wife, Mary Jane.

Hi,

Your new thread for the Tilley family has strengthened the possibility that I have found the right records, as the Guest family I am looking at are also in Northfield Rd in the 1851 census, with the head Benjamin, Horse Nail Maker and son, John, Coal Miner.

If anyone has access to the record of the marriage of John Guest and Selvey Tilley (see above), my search may well be over

Thanks......

H.

As this been posted for a look up,

John Guest.
groom's birth date: 1835.
groom's age: 20.
bride's name: Selvey Tilley.
bride's birth date: 1835.
bride's age: 20.
marriage date: 09 Dec 1855.
marriage place: Rowley Regis, Stafford.
groom's father's name: Benjamin Guest.
bride's father's name: James Tilley.
groom's marital status: Single.
bride's marital status: Single.
indexing project (batch) number: M01975-9.
system origin: England-EASy.
source film number: 367802.
reference number: i107 v68 p144 cn288.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1855.
GUEST John. TILLEY Selvey. Rowley Regis, St Giles. Sandwell Register Office. 18/2/288.

9 Dec 1855 St Giles Rowley Regis
John GUEST 20 B Collier Windmill End Father Benjamin Guest Nailer
Selvey TILLEY 20 S Windmill End Father James Tilley Blacksmith
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Samuel Spencer X / Eliza Guest X

Thanks RF
and nailer

added to Bcc

ok to archive nailer?

Jan,

All completed; many thanks to all

H