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ARC TBC - Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:14 pm
by Yesterday
Hello, I am really hoping someone may be able to help me with this one. I am doing a family tree for my son in laws father and on his fathers side have come across nothing but brick walls!
Luther Edgar Wade (known as Edgar) was born in 1916 in Middleton Lancashire. His birth certificate states that his fathers name was Luther Henry WADE and mother Amy Alice HINCHCLIFFE. Luther(jnr) had 2 older brothers Jack and Fred and a younger sister (name unknown) who died before the age of 10. Luther (Jnr) went into a home called Boundary Park at the age of 10 (so about 1926). Thats it...I can find nothing else.
No birth marriage or death for Luther (Snr) or Amy (as WADE or HINCHCLIFFE) and no census records for any year either with them together or apart! Despite trying every spelling variation known to mankind and searching nationally in case they simply moved - I can find nothing at all about either of them or their children Jack, Fred and unknown female although I did find a Richard WADE (mother HINCHCLIFFE) who died as an infant in 1918.
Just to add to the headache, I can find no record of a home called Boundary Park!
I am hoping that one of you out there may have heard of it or anyone in this elusive family!
Thanks for your time.
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:54 pm
by gardener
Hi
I wonder if Boundary Park was connected to Boundary Park Hospital in some way?
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Oldham/ Perhaps there was a children's home there before the hospital?
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:17 pm
by gardener
This could be Frank's* birth? And Luther jnr which you have, then a Richard who died an infant?
Births Jun 1915
Wade Frank Hinchcliffe Barnsley 9c 485
Births Mar 1916
Wade Luther E Hinchcliffe Oldham 8d 1101
Births Sep 1918
Wade Richard Hinchcliffe Oldham 8d 885
Deaths Sep 1918
Wade Richard 0 Oldham 8d 800
*I'm cracking up! You aren't looking for a Frank.
Births Sep 1913
Wade Frances A Hinchliffe Barnsley 9c 536
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:24 am
by MarkCDodd
Amy's was married previously? Luther's real name Luther Edgar Wade, not Luther Henry Wade?
Civil Registration event: Marriage
MarriageFinder: Luther Edgar Wade married Amy Naylor
Name: WADE, Luther Edgar
Registration district: Bradford
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1903
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 9B
Page no: 33
Name: NAYLOR, Amy
Registration district: Bradford
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1903
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 9B
Page no: 33
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:46 am
by MarkCDodd
Just looking at the parish register for the Banns and Marriage.
Amy Naylor was a 25 year old spinster. Father Edward John Naylor. A baker.
Luther Edgar Wade was a 24 year old bachelor. Father Henry Wade (deceased). A Grocer.
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:04 am
by MarkCDodd
Could Amy Alice have remarried in 1926 and dumped the kids into a home?
Civil Registration event: Marriage
MarriageFinder: Amy A Wade married Ernest J E Pearce
Name: WADE, Amy A
Registration district: Stroud
County: Gloucestershire
Year of registration: 1926
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Pearce
Volume no: 6A
Page no: 724
Name: PEARCE, Ernest J E
Registration district: Stroud
County: Gloucestershire
Year of registration: 1926
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Wade
Volume no: 6A
Page no: 724
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:25 am
by Yesterday
How wonderful you all are!
Gardener, I did wonder if 'childrens home' may have meant workhouse so I shall follow that up and, although I was not looking for a Frank the coincidence of the mothers maiden name may be worth further dig!
MarkCDodd, I had noted the marriage of the Amy Naylor and Luther and wondered myself if she may have been married before but your information from the parish registers seems to discount that (unless she fibbed and was not a spinster) but the remarriage of an Amy A to Ernest Pearce and dumping the children (at least Luther Jnr.) sounds rather plausible, I shall dig into that one a bit more - Thank you
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:58 am
by gardener
Luther Edgar Wade (known as Edgar) was born in 1916 in Middleton Lancashire. His birth certificate states that his fathers name was Luther Henry WADE and mother Amy Alice HINCHCLIFFE.
Does the birth certificate give an address? And does it have an occupation for the father?
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:05 pm
by Yesterday
The Birth certificate gives the address as 31 Assheton Street, Middleton and the fathers occupation as Driver Royal Field Artillery (Outdoor Labourer). I am assuming the occupation in brackets is his peacetime job.
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:52 pm
by MarkCDodd
That address in 1911 is inhabited by Wrights and Wriggleys.
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:34 pm
by grangers14
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Death
Luther E Wade abt 1881 Jan-Feb-Mar 1948 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
1881. 305 and 307 Wakefield Road, Bowling, Brdford
Henry Wade, head, 25, Grocer and beer retailer, Bowling
Sabina, wife, 24, Gomersall nr Leeds
Luther Edgar, son, 1, Bowling
1891. 60, Evens Terrace, Bowling
Sabina Turner, Head M 36, Dress Maker. Gomersall
Luther W Waite, step son, Bradford
Tom Turner, son, 5, Bristol
Catherine H Turner, daur, 3 Bradford,
Florence, daur, 3 months, Bradford
1901. 60 Evens Terrace, Bowling,
Sabina Turner, head, W, 46, Gomersal
Luther Wade, son, 22, Dry Salters ? warehouseman
Tom Turner, 15, worsted spinner
Jackie Turner, daur, 13, Dry Salters Packer, Bristol
Florence Turner, daur,10
All others born Bowling
1911. 23 Bismarch Street. Bradford
Francis Yates, head, 34, nocking up
Annie Yates, wife, 36, married 12 years, 2 children both living, Shelf
Ada Yates, daur, 9
Albert Yates, son, 6,
Amy Wade, Lodger, 32, Married 7 years, 2 children both living, Twister, Bradford
Dorothy Wade, Lodger, 7,
Ernest Naylor, Lodger, 3 Little Horton
All others born Bowling
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:57 pm
by grangers14
Born March 9th 1904.
Christening 13th April 1904. All Saints, Horton
Dorothy, Father, Luther, Mother Amy (transcribed as Amige Wade.)
2 Little Cross Street. Warehouseman
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:08 pm
by akelajackie
I have found the following which may be of asstance regarding Boundary Park. I have alos listed another link which might be of use.
From 1915, the workhouse was renamed Westwood Park Poor Law Institution. Following the inauguration on the National Health Service in 1948, the former workhouse infirmary at the north of the site became Boundary Park General Hospital. The rest of the buildings were renamed Boundary Park General Hospital Annexe, specialised in providing geriatric and psychiatric care. An Oldham County Borough Directory of 1956 lists Boundary Park Hospital as having 390 beds, and the Annexe as having 600. However, the establishment of the modern Welfare State meant that there was less need for the services provided by the Annexe and greater need for more hospital beds. When the last forty old men and women left the Annexe in 1957 for residential care, they were seen as the last 'inmates' of the old workhouse.
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Oldham/Also see
Records
"ยข Oldham Local Studies and Archives, 84 Union Street, Oldham, OL1 1DN. Extensive holdings include: Guardians' minutes (1837-1930); Births (1847-1931); Deaths (1887-94, 1917-47); Creed registers (1891-1946, with gaps); Children received and detained in the workhouse (1910-41); etc.
Good luck
jackie
Re: Most elusive family EVER!
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:21 pm
by BC Wench
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?
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