ARC TBC - Barbara Roberts, Penmachno / Llanrwst, North Wales
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:22 am
Hi there,
I am trying to trace my gand mothers mothers family.
I have done fairly well on her husbands mothers side and really well on my other grandparents but i really have hit a brick wall here.
My grandmothers name was Nella Roberts (maybe Ellen or Nellie) 1914-02. I have 2 birth records, one for an Ellen and one for a Nellie on the right month in the right area. Her marriage,death record and grave stone say Nella.
Her mother was Barbara Roberts and we believe she was unmarried as Nella did not know her father. She didn't like to talk about it as it just wasn't done then.
She had an elder sister called Ann/Annie (B1908?) who lived on to move to Cricceth and worked with antiques or at an antiques shop in the late eighties at least.I have found no records of birth/death as I'm not sure of her married name but she had a whole bunch of children who i have a few forenames for.
She had a brother Richard either a couple of years older who died around the age of 13 from the flu epidemic after the war? (Nella was young at the time so might not be quite right) I have found no records of birth/death
When Nella was little she was brought up by her grandparents on a farm which i believe was in Penmachno. I believe her surname Roberts was her mothers surname and grandparents surname as as far as we know her father is unknown.
She and Richard then went to live with her mother and her new step father Bob or Robert around 1920 i think in Nant y Rhiw, Llanrwst. Her step father worked on a farm or was a Shepard but i do not know his name. I do know he and Barbara had two more daughters a
Nella 1914 (deceased who married Thomas Owen, moved to Mochdre, became a baker in Rhos on Sea and had six children
This part is what my grandmother passed down to me but without surnames or where she lived i can't carry on my family tree through Barbaras mother and father and so on which is rather frustrating!! My eldest auntie thinks that Nella told her that Barbara had brothers and sisters in Penmachno.
Barbara may or not have married Bob/Robert but from what Nella remembered was buried in Penmachno but unsure when so i was thinking of going to visit the grave yards in that area and contacting the chapel but with out dates or surname at death would i be able to do this?
I have traced a Hugh Parry Roberts in Penmachno but lived in the rectory or old rectory and their census reads lots of children at different times which 'could' be the grand parents of Nella as there was a Barbara there when she was a small child. There seems to be a lot of children though through the years though? This is my dead end as without knowing more about Barbara and the lack of census from 1911 i really do not know where to go.
Any help or ideas would really be appreciated. I thought over the past year i had done really well with the other branches of mine and my partners families but Nella was my closest grandparent, she dies ten years ago this year when i was 21 at uni and wished i had got to talk to her more as a grown up than a grandchild.
I feel like i am rambling but I've tried to type everything i know!
Thank you again
Samantha
I am trying to trace my gand mothers mothers family.
I have done fairly well on her husbands mothers side and really well on my other grandparents but i really have hit a brick wall here.
My grandmothers name was Nella Roberts (maybe Ellen or Nellie) 1914-02. I have 2 birth records, one for an Ellen and one for a Nellie on the right month in the right area. Her marriage,death record and grave stone say Nella.
Her mother was Barbara Roberts and we believe she was unmarried as Nella did not know her father. She didn't like to talk about it as it just wasn't done then.
She had an elder sister called Ann/Annie (B1908?) who lived on to move to Cricceth and worked with antiques or at an antiques shop in the late eighties at least.I have found no records of birth/death as I'm not sure of her married name but she had a whole bunch of children who i have a few forenames for.
She had a brother Richard either a couple of years older who died around the age of 13 from the flu epidemic after the war? (Nella was young at the time so might not be quite right) I have found no records of birth/death
When Nella was little she was brought up by her grandparents on a farm which i believe was in Penmachno. I believe her surname Roberts was her mothers surname and grandparents surname as as far as we know her father is unknown.
She and Richard then went to live with her mother and her new step father Bob or Robert around 1920 i think in Nant y Rhiw, Llanrwst. Her step father worked on a farm or was a Shepard but i do not know his name. I do know he and Barbara had two more daughters a
Nella 1914 (deceased who married Thomas Owen, moved to Mochdre, became a baker in Rhos on Sea and had six children
This part is what my grandmother passed down to me but without surnames or where she lived i can't carry on my family tree through Barbaras mother and father and so on which is rather frustrating!! My eldest auntie thinks that Nella told her that Barbara had brothers and sisters in Penmachno.
Barbara may or not have married Bob/Robert but from what Nella remembered was buried in Penmachno but unsure when so i was thinking of going to visit the grave yards in that area and contacting the chapel but with out dates or surname at death would i be able to do this?
I have traced a Hugh Parry Roberts in Penmachno but lived in the rectory or old rectory and their census reads lots of children at different times which 'could' be the grand parents of Nella as there was a Barbara there when she was a small child. There seems to be a lot of children though through the years though? This is my dead end as without knowing more about Barbara and the lack of census from 1911 i really do not know where to go.
Any help or ideas would really be appreciated. I thought over the past year i had done really well with the other branches of mine and my partners families but Nella was my closest grandparent, she dies ten years ago this year when i was 21 at uni and wished i had got to talk to her more as a grown up than a grandchild.
I feel like i am rambling but I've tried to type everything i know!
Thank you again
Samantha