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I was looking through Cinder Bank Chapel photos when I came across a headstone for Rosetta Guest wife of William Henry Guest, I wondered why I couldn't find a burial for her at St Andrew's where her husband is buried. The stone is difficult to read so i contacted San to see if she had anymore details, when I had the reply saying what the inscription said i was amazed, it appears she was buried with 9 of her children !! From my research I know she had a daughter mary Emma Leopard born 1851 not finding anything more I assumed she died quite young. San suggested I put the details on to see if anyone can find any of the 9 missing children. These are her children I know of

Mary Emma Leoppard born about 1851

Stephen Henry Guest born 1852 my great grandfather

Richard Guest born 1856

Rosetta Guest born 1861

Noah Daniel Guest born 1865

No wonder she died aged 39


nessa

Thanks Nessa - gallery/image_page.php?album_id=182&image_id=5532

This is what I can make out....

IN AFFECTIONATE REMEMBERANCE OF ROSETTA THE BELOVED WIFE OF WILLIAM HENRY GUEST
WHO DEPARTED THIS LIFE FEBRUARY 19TH 1869 AGED 39 YEARS
HUSBAND FAREWELL TIS THOU MUST REAR OUR CHILDREN IN GODS HOLY FEAR?
? TEACH THEM HOW TO RISE? AND PRAY
AND GUIDE THEM.........?
SO MAY WE MEET RENEWED.......?
ALSO NINE OF THEIR CHILDREN WHO DIED........?
"SUFFER LITTLE CHILDREN........?

Here's the link on BCC - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ard-Family

Forgot 2 things Rosetta lived in Netherton and thank you to Peter for the photographs.

nessa

Here she is with her parents - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family

Hey San could you do your stuff with the link to the photos on Bcc pls on this one
if you a min

mallosa wrote:Thanks Nessa - gallery/image_page.php?album_id=182&image_id=5532

This is what I can make out....

IN AFFECTIONATE REMEMBERANCE OF ROSETTA THE BELOVED WIFE OF WILLIAM HENRY GUEST
WHO DEPARTED THIS LIFE FEBRUARY 19TH 1869 AGED 39 YEARS
HUSBAND FAREWELL TIS THOU MUST REAR OUR CHILDREN IN GODS HOLY FEAR?
? TEACH THEM HOW TO RISE? AND PRAY
AND GUIDE THEM.........?
SO MAY WE MEET RENEWED.......?
ALSO NINE OF THEIR CHILDREN WHO DIED........?
"SUFFER LITTLE CHILDREN........?

Here's the link on BCC - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ard-Family

san can you add that inscription info in notes too if you a min pls
great these photos you and Pete have sorted

What an exciting find Nessa, thanks to Peter and San, wonder if Rosetta had anymore children, they were not baptised if they were still born. I have these notes on Cinder Bank Chapel:-

The Messiah Baptist at Cinder Bank, records of which dated back over 300 years at the time of the booklet"™s publication. It had stood on the site latterly occupied by the White Swan Inn. Records show that Oliver Cromwell visited the chapel, when he and his forces were heading for Worcester, via Halesowen, during the Civil War. But the chapel itself doesn"™t tell the whole story behind the name of this particular corner. The name stuck, apparently, because those converted by the chapel were baptised in the canal basin nearby, by being immersed completely in the water. The basin was known, at least by the chapel-goers, as the Warm Hole, as it was heated by water from Deeley"™s furnaces, situated nearby. Deeley"™s christian name, according to the booklet, was Bufferies, which lent itself, in slightly modified form, to the steep wide road up to Dixon"™s Green.

I also have the Register for Cinder Bank Chapel from 1654 - 1798, only one Guest a Mary Guest Baptised in 1736. Lots of Buffery's, sure someone on here was looking for them. HTH Linell.

Think I've added everything

9 buried, I wonder how many were stillborn?

I have had the same issue finding the 17 children who were born alive and then died to my 2nd Great Grandparents, Ellen Siviter and William Hadley.

God knows if she had any still births to add to that tally as they are not recorded.

I have just been talking to my dad about the information on Cinderbank chapel he can remember his uncle Fred who worked for Glazebrooks as a carter would hire horses from my grandad Charlie in the 1930's to take all the slag in big pots from the furnaces to tip on the slag heeps at Glazebrooks near the canal if the slag was tipped at dark the slag would light up the sky like molton lava. Dad can also remeber cinder walls built all over the farm one large wall about 4' high from Simms Lane past Corbetts garage down Hall lane and onto the farm, during the depression Charlie Allport with 2 elder sons and brothers extracted cinder from fields at Hall lane farm using horse and cart transporting the cinder to Rowley Regis for crushing to be used as road coverings.
Also he remembers near the canal near Glazebrooks was a cast iron plaque saying on and around this meadow 23 bombs fell which were unexploded the next day his Uncle Dan was given the job of collecting the bombs took them by cart to Dudley Police Station !!! This happened in the First World War it was said that the Zepplins followed the canal being a moonlight night thought they had found a munitions factory, apparantly there was a munitions factory at Kate's Hill and they tought they had found that. My great Uncle Dan survived that trip with the bombs bet it wouldn't happen today.

nessa

Nessa wrote << I wondered why I couldn't find a burial for her at St Andrew's where her husband is buried.>>

Rosetta must have been Baptist, so wouldn't have been buried in a C of E Churchyard.

Linell.

Ok to archive this?

if you want me to split off the mesiah cinder info and that info you have posted from your father nessa
i can move it then to social history section very interesting that for others to read.

why dont you contact them they may have some more info who inturned in the grave here the address and phone no

gallery/image.php?album_id=182&image_id=5512

flagging to archive

That is fine about putting it in social history.

nessa