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John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:25 pm
by mallosa
1861: Netherton Hill, Dudley, Worc
Samuel Smart 45 Head Coalminer
Harriett Smart 37 Wife
Samuel Smart 19 Son Coalminer S
James Smart 17 Son
Emily Smart 8 Dau
Jabez Smart 7 Son
Silas Smart 5 Son
John Henry Smart 2 Son
Phoebe Bradley 72 Mother in Law Wid Halesowen, Worc
(others born Netherton)
1871: 7 Bell Road, Dudley, Worc
Samuel Smart 56 Coalminer
Harriet Smart 48
James Smart 27
Emily Smart 18
Jabez Smart 19
Silas Smart 15
John Henry Smart 17 (12 on image)
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:43 pm
by Jimmy
SMART Samuel. BRADLEY Harriet. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/001/370.
Samuel Smart.
Bride's Name: Harriet Bradley.
Marriage Date: 19 Jan 1851.
Marriage Place: St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: James Smart.
Bride's Father's Name: Richard Bradley.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02301-7.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 992182.
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:14 pm
by mallosa
mallosa wrote:1861: Netherton Hill, Dudley, Worc
Samuel Smart 45 Head Coalminer
Harriett Smart 37 Wife
Samuel Smart 19 Son Coalminer S
James Smart 17 Son
Emily Smart 8 Dau
Jabez Smart 7 Son
Silas Smart 5 Son
John Henry Smart 2 Son
Phoebe Bradley 72 Mother in Law Wid Halesowen, Worc
(others born Netherton)
1871: 7 Bell Road, Dudley, Worc
Samuel Smart 56 Coalminer
Harriet Smart 48
James Smart 27
Emily Smart 18
Jabez Smart 19
Silas Smart 15
John Henry Smart 17 (12 on image)
1881: Bell Road, Dudley, WorcSamuel Smart 70 Coalminer
Harriet Smart 59 Nailmaker Great Bridge
Silas Smart 25 Son Unm Shoemaker
John Smart 22 Son Unm Lab at Ironworks(others born Netherton)
1891: 33 Bell Road, Dudley, WorcJohn Smart 31 Head Marr Anchor Forge Lab Netherton
Eliza Smart 31 Wife Netherton
1901: 22 Simms Lane, Dudley, WorcJohn Smart 42 Forge Furnaceman Dudley, Wor
Eliza Smart 42 Dudley Port
Alice Smart 3 Dau Dudley, Worc
Mary Smart 15 Niece Single Dudley, Worc
1911:16 Simms Lane, Netherton Nr Dudley, Worcestershire John Henry Smart 51 Anchor Forge Furnace Man
Eliza Smart 51 Dudley Port, Staffs - Married 22 years, Children: 3/1/2
Alice Smart 13 Dau
Jabez Smart 57 Brother Widower Cast Iron Pipe Coater
Harriet Smart 28 Niece Single
(others born Netherton)
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:59 pm
by peterd
poss ?
Samuel Smart
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Dec 1841 St. Thomas', Dudley, Worcester, England
Birth Date: 22 Oct 1841
Father's Name: Samuel Smart
Mother's Name: Hannah Smart
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01085-3
System Origin: England-EASy
James Smart
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Mar 1844 St Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Birth Date: 24 Dec 1843
Father's Name: Samuel Smart
Mother's Name: Hannah Smart
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00845-3
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:07 pm
by peterd
poss other
Joseph Smart
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 May 1839 St. Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father's Name: Samuel Smart
Mother's Name: Hannah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03459-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Eliza Smart
Baptism/Christening Date: 14 May 1837 St. Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father's Name: Samuel Smart
Mother's Name: Hannah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03459-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Selina Smart
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Nov 1846 Dudley, Worcester, England
Birth Date: 18 Mar 1846
Father's Name: Samuel Smart
Mother's Name: Hannah Smart
Mary Ann Smart
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Mar 1836 Dudley, Worcester, England
Birth Date: 07 Aug 1835
Father's Name: Samuel Smart
Mother's Name: Hannah Smart
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04339-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:15 pm
by mallosa
So are we saying that John Henry's father Samuel was married before - to Hannah?
That would make sense cos there is a big gap between children...
1861: Netherton Hill, Dudley, Worc
Samuel Smart 45 Head Coalminer
Harriett Smart 37 Wife
Samuel Smart 19 Son Coalminer S
James Smart 17 Son
Emily Smart 8 Dau
Jabez Smart 7 Son
Silas Smart 5 Son
John Henry Smart 2 Son
Phoebe Bradley 72 Mother in Law Wid Halesowen, Worc
(others born Netherton)
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:17 pm
by peterd
poss
1841 Upper Netherton, Dudley
Samuel Smart 30 miner
Hannah Smart 25
Mary Smart 5
Eliza Smart 4
Joseph Smart 2
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:18 pm
by peterd
mallosa wrote:So are we saying that John Henry's father Samuel was married before - to Hannah?
That would make sense cos there is a big gap between children...
1861: Netherton Hill, Dudley, Worc
Samuel Smart 45 Head Coalminer
Harriett Smart 37 Wife
Samuel Smart 19 Son Coalminer S
James Smart 17 Son
Emily Smart 8 Dau
Jabez Smart 7 Son
Silas Smart 5 Son
John Henry Smart 2 Son
Phoebe Bradley 72 Mother in Law Wid Halesowen, Worc
(others born Netherton)
poss could do with the marriage and 1851 census ?
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:22 pm
by peterd
kids split up in 1851 ?
1851 Sweet Turf, Dudley
George Robinson 33 mar, coal miner
Noah Robinson 11
Eli Robinson 8
Benjamin Robinson 5
Eliza Robinson 2
Mary Ann Smart 15 Niece Nailor
Eliza Smart 14 Niece Nailor
all born dudley
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:26 pm
by peterd
3 poss deaths
SMART Hannah 1849 - Dudley (DUD) West Midlands Dudley Register Office DUD/020/260
SMART Hannah 1849 - Dudley (DUD) West Midlands Dudley Register Office DUD/021/347
SMART Hannah 1856 - Dudley (DUD) West Midlands Dudley Register Office DUD/035/42
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:31 pm
by peterd
only one i can see
Samuel Smart
Hannah Dowler
marriage date: 05 Apr 1835 Sedgley,Stafford,
indexing project (batch) number: M00998-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0873645 IT 1, 421588, 421589, 435837, 435838, 435839, 435840
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:32 pm
by peterd
peterd wrote:kids split up in 1851 ?
1851 Sweet Turf, Dudley
George Robinson 33 mar, coal miner
Noah Robinson 11
Eli Robinson 8
Benjamin Robinson 5
Eliza Robinson 2
Mary Ann Smart 15 Niece Nailor
Eliza Smart 14 Niece Nailor
all born dudley
that samuel and hannah looks good
poss marriage for george
ROBINSON George DOWLER Mary 1837 Sedgley, All Saints West Midlands Dudley Register Office 216/001/76
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:56 pm
by mallosa
Looking for John Henry's marriage...
found these....
Marriage 1887
SMART John SHEPPARD Eliza Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/010/309
Marriage 1888
SMART John COURT Eliza Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/006/124
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:57 pm
by mallosa
Jimmy wrote:SMART Samuel. BRADLEY Harriet. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/001/370.
added this for a look up Pete, to see if he was married previously
Re: John Henry Smart born 1859
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:24 pm
by mallosa