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"completed"Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:39 am
by expat66
Another Black Country soldier died WWI
... having some difficulty finding his family though :?

From CWGC

BELCHER, WALTER

Rank: Private
Service No: 201965
Date of Death: 29/08/1917
Regiment/Service: Worcestershire Regiment , 2nd/7th Bn

Panel 75 to 77.
TYNE COT MEMORIAL

Name: Walter Belcher
Birth Place: Blackheath, Staffs
Residence: Cradley, Staffs
Death Date: 29 Aug 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Dudley, Worcs
Rank: Private
Regiment: Worcestershire Regiment
Battalion: 2/7th Battalion
Number: 201965
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

From his service records ...
Walter James Belcher joined up in Nov 1911, aged 18years,
a labourer, address Brittle?? Lane,Blackheath, not married

father Walter Belcher, mother Sarah Belcher, Brittle?? Lane

I haven't been able to find these people on census :?
Can anyone see them?

Thankyou
Expat

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:31 am
by MarkCDodd
Looks like the Doctor did not sign till 1912 and the approving officer till the 31st January 1914.

That record shows he was discharged in 1914. It looks like militia papers to me.

He was discharged as medically unfit. (para 156(11))

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:42 am
by MarkCDodd
1901 census transcription details for: 17, Melbourne Street, Wolverhampton

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2683
Folio: 36
Page: 9
Reg. District: Wolverhampton
Sub District: Wolverhampton Eastern
Parish: Wolverhampton
Enum. District: 38
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 17, Melbourne Street, Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BELCHER, Walter Head Married M 29 1872 Boot Finisher Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
BELCHER, Rosina Wife Married F 28 1873 Bristol, Gloucestershire
BELCHER, Walter T Son M 6 1895 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
BELCHER, Lilian R Daughter F 2 1899 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
HOOPER, Sarah L Visitor Single F 23 1878 General Servant (Domestic) Bristol, Gloucestershire
HOOPER, Ellen A Visitor Single F 22 1879 Furrier Manchester, Lancashire
STEVENTON, Joseph Boarder Single M 22 1879 Printer Stone, Staffordshire

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:47 am
by MarkCDodd
This bloke was born in Black heath.

1911 census transcription details for: 35 King William St Amblecote Stourbridge

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN17499 RG78PN1069 RD373 SD2 ED20 SN33
Reg. District: Stourbridge
Sub District: Stourbridge
Parish: Amblecote
Enum. District: 20
Address: 35 King William St Amblecote Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BELCHER, Joseph Husband Married 24 years M 45 1866 General Laberour Tory St Old Hil England Staffs
BELCHER, Esther Wife Married 24 years F 44 1867 Birmingham Rd Black Heath England Staffs
BELCHER, Walter Son Single M 16 1895 General Labourer In Brickworks 32 Birmingham Rd Black Heath England Staffs
BELCHER, Maggie Daughter F 8 1903 School 32 Birmingham Rd Black Heath England Staffs

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:48 am
by feral-underclass
county express

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:05 am
by MarkCDodd
Name: Walter James Belcher
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Jan 1896
Baptism/Christening Place: Blackheath, Worcester, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Joseph Belcher
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Esther
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01263-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 6085692
Reference Number: 5-129

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:25 pm
by expat66
Thanks Mark and feral-underclass :grin:

So two Walter Belchers then .... one has father Joseph, other has father Walter

Expat

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:29 pm
by expat66
Possible marriage for the Walter who died in 1917? ..... newspaper article said he was a married man

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1915
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BELCHER Walter RAYBOULD Ethel Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/003/457

Will post for lookup
Expat

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:02 pm
by expat66
Lookup thanks to RF .....thankyou :grin:

15 Feb 1915 St Peter Cradley
Walter BELCHER 21 B Core ? Maker 15 New Street Father Joseph Belcher Brick Maker
Ethel RAYBOULD 21 S Brick Maker 9 Park Row Heber Raybould Labourer
Wit; Thomas Pritchard / Amelia Emery

So this one is the one with father Joseph and he was the WWI casualty

......that means I can start adding some of this to BCC

Is this Ethel Raybould on BCC already?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... uld-Family

Thanks again for the help!
Expat :grin:

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:26 pm
by expat66
1901. Park Row,Cuckoos Corner, Cradley
Heber Raybould,35,head,married, labourer at iron works?, born Cradley
Sophia,35,wife, born Cradley
Ethel,7,daughter, born Cradley Heath
Wilfred,4,son, born Longport, Staffs.

so I think that Ethel is that one on BCC

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... uld-Family

also
1911. Cuckoos Corner, Cradley, Staffs.
Joseph Heber Raybould,46,head,married, ironworks labourer, born Overend,Cradley
Sophia,45,wife, married 22 years, 5 children born, 4 still living, born Overend,Cradley
Ethel,17,daughter, unmarried, brickworks labourer, born Cradley Heath, Staffs.
Wilfred,14,son, bucket works labourer, born Longport,Staffs.
Gladys Raybould,9,daughter
Lily Raybould,4,daughter
Others born Cuckoos Corner

Expat

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:33 pm
by expat66
1891. Cradley Forge, Kingswinford,Staffs.
Heber Raybould,25,head,married, ironworker, born Overend
Sophia,25,wife, born Overend
John Worton,21,lodger, married, blacksmith, born Lomey Town
Hannah E Worton,21,wife, born Hammer ??, Staffs.

Expat

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:04 pm
by expat66
Started to add to BCC here ...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =820177833

Don't have time to add the other Walter with father Walter just yet :wink:

Expat

Re: Walter James Belcher died WWI

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:57 pm
by expat66
Have now added the rest

OK to archive
Thankyou
Expat :grin: