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Sorry .... another puzzle I can't work out.

Thanks to RF providing this lookup ..

11 Mar 1917 Holy Trinity Langley
Joseph SMITH 27 Boiler Maker 1 Titford Road Father John Smith Labourer
Ann Maria EVITTS 26 W 17 Spring St Father John Lowe (Dec) Bricklayer
Wit; Ernest Goode / Elizabeth Anthony

Added to BCC here ..

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It was fairly easy to find Joseph's family in 1911 ... same address!

1911. 1 Titford Rd, Langley
John Smith,59,head,married,stone breaker chemical works
Elizabeth,55,wife, married 25 years, 9 children born 7 still living, place of birth not given
Benjamin,23,son,unmarried, boiler riveter at boiler works
Joseph,21,son, unmarried, boiler rivet holder boiler works
Elizabeth,16,daughter,hook and eye maker
Phoebe,14,daughter, cardboard box maker
Others born Oldbury

Then found 1901 census

1891. Park St, Oldbury
John Smith,36,head, married,coal miner
Elizabeth,35,wife, born Rowley Regis
Ernest Goode,14,son,labourer at glassworks
Louisa Smith,4,daughter
Benjamin Smith,3,son
Joseph Smith,1,son
Others born Oldbury

Now I am wondering ....who is Ernest Goode
Is he John Smith's son or Elizabeth's
Looks like he was one of the witnesses at Joseph Smith's marriage too

Found this one ..

1901. 64,Dingle St, Oldbury
Ernest Goode,24, head, married, general labourer
Rachael,24,wife
Ernest, son,4 months
All born Oldbury

1911. 100 Old Park Lane,Langley
Ernest Goode, 34,head, married, cyanide foreman at chemical works
Rachel,34,wife, married 15 years, 6 children, 4 still living
Ernest,10,son, school
John,9,son, school
George,6,son,school
James,1,son
Elsie,14,daughter
Dorie,13,daughter
All born Oldbury


Possible marriage..

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1896
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GOODE Ernest CUTLER Rachel Oldbury, St James Sandwell Register Office 14/1/27

Will add to lookups

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3 possible marriages for father John Smith ....to Elizabeth Unknown

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1884
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SMITH John CHAMBERLAIN Elizabeth Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/006/69

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SMITH John ROLLASON Elizabeth West Bromwich, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 23/7/18

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SMITH John PORTER Elizabeth Coseley, St Chad Dudley Register Office 209/001/59

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1881. 30 Birch F. Lane, Oldbury.
Samuel Gould 48. Engine driver.
Elizabeth Gould 49. Brierley Hill Staffs.
Elizabeth Gould 24. Dau. Unm.
Sarah A. Gould 19. Dau.
Emily Gould 16. Dau.
Samuel Gould 14. Dau.
Josh. Gould 11. Son.
Patience Gould 9. Dau.
Mont. Gould 7. Son.
Stephen Gould 5. Son.
Florence Gould 3. Dau.
Ernest Gould 4. Grand son.
Amelia Gould 1. Grand dau.

Others born Oldbury, Worcs.

Looks like Elizabeth Goode married James Rollason,

Marriages Dec 1884.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1884.
GOODE Elizabeth. ROLLASON James. Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office. 012/002/77.

James Rollason died,
Deaths Mar 1885.
ROLLASON James. age 29. W.Bromwich. 6b. 493.

Then Elizabeth Rollason married John Smith.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1885.
SMITH John. ROLLASON Elizabeth. West Bromwich, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office. 23/7/18.

1881. 38 Birchy F. Lane, Oldbury.
Thomas Rollason 52. Labourer glass works. Oldbury.
Mary Rollason 51. Tipton.
James Rollason 25. Son. Coal miner. West Bromwich.

Jimmy wrote:1881. 38 Birchy F. Lane, Oldbury.
Thomas Rollason 52. Labourer glass works. Oldbury.
Mary Rollason 51. Tipton.
James Rollason 25. Son. Coal miner. West Bromwich.

1871. Church Bridge, Oldbury.
Thos Rollason 43. Boat loader.
Mary A Rollason 42. Tipton.
Thos Rollason 21. Son. Boat loader.
Mary A Rollason 17. Dau.
James Rollason 15. Son. Miner. West Bromwich.
Maria Rollason 9. Dau.

Others born Oldbury, Worcs.

Looks like father Thomas and sister Mary A are on BCC,

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family

1851. Birchfield Lane, Oldbury.
George French 56. Coal miner. Tipton.
Ann French 55. Tipton.
Eli French 13. Son. Tipton.
Thomas Rollason 22. Son in law. Oldbury.
Mary Ann Rollason 19. Dau. Mar. Tipton.
Thomas Rollason 1. Grandson. Oldbury.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1850.
ROLLASON Thomas. FRENCH Mary A. Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box). Sandwell Register Office. 39/6/78.

Nice one Jimmy
Thankyou for all that

Will add to BCC when I have a mo'

Expat

I will connect up where we need to expat then if you can add census and kids

Jimmy wrote:1881. 30 Birch F. Lane, Oldbury.
Samuel Gould 48. Engine driver.
Elizabeth Gould 49. Brierley Hill Staffs.
Elizabeth Gould 24. Dau. Unm.
Sarah A. Gould 19. Dau.
Emily Gould 16. Dau.
Samuel Gould 14. Dau.
Josh. Gould 11. Son.
Patience Gould 9. Dau.
Mont. Gould 7. Son.
Stephen Gould 5. Son.
Florence Gould 3. Dau.
Ernest Gould 4. Grand son.
Amelia Gould 1. Grand dau.

Others born Oldbury, Worcs.

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1856.
GOODE Elizabeth. Oldbury. Sandwell Register Office. OLD/22/348.

1861. Birchfield Lane, Oldbury.
Samuel Goode 28. Engine driver. Halesowen, Shropshire.
Elizabeth Goode 27.
Moses Knowles 9. Son.
James Goode 6. Son.
Elizabeth Goode 4. Dau.
Olive Goode 2. Dau.

Others born Dudley.

1871. Birchfield Lane, Oldbury.
Samuel Gould 38. Engine driver. Rowley.
Elizth Gould 38. Brierley Hill.
Moses Gould 19. Son.
James Gould 15. Son.
Elizth Gould 14. Dau.
Mary Gould 9. Dau.
Sarah A Gould 7. Dau.
Emily Gould 4. Dau.
Samuel Gould 3. Son.
Kate Gould 2. Dau.
Joseph Gould 10 Months. Son.

Others born Oldbury.

1891. Park St, Oldbury.
Samuel Goode 57. Engine driver. Halesowen.
Elizabeth Goode 54. Brierley Hill.
Joseph Goode 20. Son.
Montague Goode 17. Son.
Zephaniah Goode 14. Son.
Florence Goode 12. Dau.

Others born Oldbury.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1854.
GOODE Samuel. KNOWLES Elizabeth. West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office. 22/6/407.

Joseph Goode.
Groom's Birth Date: 1870.
Groom's Age: 21.
Bride's Name: Louisa Shaw.
Bride's Birth Date: 1872.
Bride's Age: 19.
Marriage Date: 20 Sep 1891.
Marriage Place: St. Edmund'S Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Samuel Goode.
Bride's Father's Name: Richard Shaw.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01401-0.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 992184.
Reference Number: Yr 1891 P 33 No 65.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1891.
GOODE Joseph. SHAW Louisa. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/009/65.

James William Stevens.
Groom's Birth Date: 1869.
Groom's Age: 21.
Bride's Name: Patience Goode.
Bride's Birth Date: 1872.
Bride's Age: 18.
Marriage Date: 1890.
Marriage Place: West Bromwich, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Samuel Stevens.
Bride's Father's Name: Samuel Goode.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05521-3.
System Origin: England-VR.
Source Film Number: 1526219.
Reference Number: 2:3QQ30WV.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1890.
GOODE Patience. STEVENS James W. West Bromwich, Christ Church. Sandwell Register Office. 23/7/362.

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needs other census and kids etc from thread will flag for help