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I am resident in Scotland, but originally from Warrington where part of the Smart family moved to from Dudley in the mid 19th C. The family lived in St John's Road Kates Hill and I have details of several marriages at St John's Church there. I am interested in Samuel Smart 1841-1877 who is on the site. I see he is the son of Thomas Smart b.1818 but I don't see any more details for Thomas. I have a Samuel Smart in my tree b 24th April 1839 and son of Daniel & Hannah Smart(Siviter). So far I have not worked out the connection but I think there is one.Does anyone have details on Thomas.
Thanks

hi gasbad64, im originally from warrrington living durham now, welcome to the forum, this is your samuel on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=58612981

might be him

1861 adjoing st johns st, dudley

Thomas A Darby 35
Elizth A Darby 36
William A Dary 14
Samuel Smart 22 lodger, coal miner, dudley
James Price 24
Ellen Price 4

DARBY Thomas H PRICE Elizabeth 1845 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/006/242

gasbad64 wrote:I am resident in Scotland, but originally from Warrington where part of the Smart family moved to from Dudley in the mid 19th C. The family lived in St John's Road Kates Hill and I have details of several marriages at St John's Church there. I am interested in Samuel Smart 1841-1877 who is on the site. I see he is the son of Thomas Smart b.1818 but I don't see any more details for Thomas. I have a Samuel Smart in my tree b 24th April 1839 and son of Daniel & Hannah Smart(Siviter). So far I have not worked out the connection but I think there is one.Does anyone have details on Thomas.
Thanks

Hi gabad64 welcome I think you and I have corresponded via the Bcc site
I can add this to Bcc

do you have the full birth certif details for your Samuel?

and the marriage info for Daniel and Hannah?
I can add it in notes and pop your username in notes

is this yours you sent for?
1839
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
SMART Samuel Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/2/214

does anyone have the info on this pls
Groom's Name: Daniel Smart
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Hannah Siveter
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 08 Sep 1833
Marriage Place: Kingswinford,Stafford,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05373-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 435778, 435779

added the other Samuel with father Daniel here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =439682733

and the one with father Thomas here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =299399761

1851 St Johns rd, dudley

Daniel Smart 43 labourer
Hannah Smart 41
Elizbth Smart 17 at home
Mary Smart 17 ? maker
Jane Smart 15 screw ?
Saml Smart 12 miner
Willm Smart 7
Thos Smart 7 Mo
all born dudley

peterd wrote:might be him

1861 adjoing st johns st, dudley

Thomas A Darby 35
Elizth A Darby 36
William A Dary 14
Samuel Smart 22 lodger, coal miner, dudley
James Price 24
Ellen Price 4

DARBY Thomas H PRICE Elizabeth 1845 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/006/242

1861 St Johns rd, dudley

Daniel Smart 54 common labourer
Hannah Smart 50
Elizabeth Smart 27
William Smart 8
Sarah Ann Smart 6
John Smart 5
Thomas Smart 4 cart make age
Elizabeth Luster (poss siviter)74 lodger ?
all born dudley


note above poss thomas smart close location to daniel ?


Elizabeth Luster 74 lodger poss mother in law as this is in thomas box ?

1871; 54 St John Rd, Dudley

Daniel Smart 63 labourer
Hannah Smart 60
Sarah Smart 17
John Daniel Smart 15 moulder
Thomas Henry Smart 14 fitter

1881; 59 St Johns Rd, Dudley

Daniel Smart 74 Parish Beadle
Hannah Smart 69
Sarah A. Smart 26
Elizabeth Williscroft 45
Joseph Williscroft 9 g daug
Martha Smart 6 g daug
all born dudley


SMART Elizabeth WILLISCROFT William 1870 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/003/478

1891; 56 St Johns Rd

Sarah Smart 31 cartaker st john church
Martha Smart 16 daug
Elizabeth Willmott (Williscroft) 56 washerwoman
Joseph Willmott 19 grave digger (church)
all born dudley

1901; 64 St Johns Rd, Dudley

George T Hickman 34 carter general, gornal
Sarah Ann Hickman 46 school cleaner
John P Hickman 5 son
Elizabeth Willescroft 67 lodger school cleaner
rest dudley

HICKMAN George T SMART Sarah A 1895 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/010/228

poss hannah ?

Hanh. Sivetor
Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Mar 1812 SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

Father's Name: James Sivetor
Mother's Name: Elizth.

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04014-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 378764

poss sibling for hannah need mar cert to confirm her father james ?


Jeremiah Sivetor
christening: 04 Nov 1810 SAINT THOMAS,"‹DUDLEY,"‹WORCESTER,"‹
parents: James Sivetor,"‹ Elizth.


Elizth. Sivitor
christening: 18 Sep 1808 SAINT THOMAS,"‹DUDLEY,"‹WORCESTER,"‹ENGLAND
parents: James Sivitor,"‹ Elizth.



dont know about this one no father ?

Sarah Siviter
christening: 19 Apr 1807 SAINT THOMAS,"‹DUDLEY,"‹WORCESTER,"‹ENGLAND
parents: Elizabeth Siviter

8 Sep 1833 St Mary Kingswinford
Daniel SMART of this parish & Hannah SIVETER of this parish
Wit; Elizabeth Cautherington/ Thomas Walters