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Thankyou for the marriage lookup Antie Em

26 Oct 1895
St. Matthew, Smethwick
James Hadley, 30, B, Labourer of 86 Wills Street, Father William Hadley, Moulder
Mary Ann Dearn, 21, S, Father Joseph Dearn, Moulder
Wit : James Joel (D.....?) and Hannah Picking Dearn

On BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

Looking for Mary Ann's husband ... James ..... is this him with father William in 1881?

1881 census ..2 Watery Lane, Harborne
William Hadley,42,widower, moulder
William Hadley,19,son, single, forgeman iron?
James Hadley,17,son, single , ditto
Ann Jane Hadley,12, daughter
Maria Ann Hadley,9,daughter
Emma Hadley,6,daughter
All born Smethwick

Is the father William this one on BCC ?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =399587001

Expat

William's father Henry is my 3rd Great Grandfather. Williams occupation is "moulder" on the 1881 census. It is glass he moulds and in earlier census he is described as a glass maker. Glass making was in the family and I believe the Dearnes were also involved. William's brother John is a glass maker and his brother Thomas is a glass blower.

I do not have a marriage down for James as there were too many possibilities. That lookup confirms the marriage to Mary Ann Dearn to be the correct one.

Hang on a bit....there are two James Hadley born 1865 with Iron Moulder fathers in the 1871 census.....

Having a look at the 1881 cenus...it says Iron Moulder, not glass moulder...so I may have been ont he wrong track as well.

Let me see if I can sort this out for you.....

Worcestershire Census Transcript (1871)

Address: 3 Bridge Street Parish: Smethwick, Harborne Registration District: King's Norton
Surname Forename Age Relation Occupation Birth Place
Hadley William 40 Head Moulder In Iron Foundry Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley Ann 37 Wife Wapping, Middlesex
Hadley William 10 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley Thomas 8 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley James 6 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley Walter 4 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley George 1 Son Harborne, Staffordshire

Worcestershire Census Transcript (1871)

Address: Brook Street Parish: Smethwick, Harborne Registration District: King's Norton
Surname Forename Age Relation Occupation Birth Place
Hadley William 35 Head Iron Moulder Smethwick, Staffordshire
Hadley Elizabeth 35 Wife St Helens, Lancashire
Hadley Margaret M 11 Daughter Scholar Smethwick, Staffordshire
Hadley William T 8 Son Scholar Smethwick, Staffordshire
Hadley James 6 Son Scholar Smethwick, Staffordshire
Hadley Elizabeth A 4 Daughter Scholar Smethwick, Staffordshire
Hadley Ann J 1 Daughter Smethwick, Staffordshire

1911 census transcription details for: 19 Montague Road Smethwick

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN17952 RG78PN1094 RD383 SD4 ED10 SN327
Reg. District: Kings Norton
Sub District: Smethwick
Parish: Smethwick
Enum. District: 10
Address: 19 Montague Road Smethwick
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HADLEY, James Head Married M 46 1865 Labbourer Smethwick Staffordshire
HADLEY, Mary Ann Wife Married 16 years F 37 1874 Smethwick Staffordshire
HADLEY, James Son Single M 15 1896 Rolling Mills Smethwick Staffordshire
HADLEY, Lizzie Louisa Daughter F 13 1898 School Smethwick Staffordshire
HADLEY, Alfred Son M 10 1901 School Smethwick Staffordshire
HADLEY, John Son M 5 1906 School Smethwick Staffordshire
HADLEY, Doris Daughter F 3 1908 Smethwick Staffordshire
HADLEY, Harry Son M 1 1910 Smethwick Staffordshire

amended Laura to Lizzie L on Bcc

1864
HADLEY James Harborne Sandwell Register Office HAR/24/302
HADLEY James Harborne Sandwell Register Office HAR/25/347

Where are James and Mary ann in 1901

and where is James in 1891

if this is his address on marriage in 1895 can we see who is living there in 1891
26 Oct 1895
St. Matthew, Smethwick
James Hadley, 30, B, Labourer of 86 Wills Street, Father William Hadley, Moulder
Mary Ann Dearn, 21, S, Father Joseph Dearn, Moulder
Wit : James Joel (D.....?) and Hannah Picking Dearn

Poss other James
1887
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HADLEY James POOL Isabella Smethwick, St Matthew Sandwell Register Office 5/2/209

1911 forgeman patternmaker
1901 engineers Patternmaker
1891 engineers patternamaker
1881 Street Address: General Hospital Summer Lane
Employment status: Occupation: Pattern Maker In Iron Works

so if that one is a Patternmaker and in hospital in 1881 and not with family in 1881 ....maybe not ours.

1891 65 Rabone Lane
William Hadley 60 widr
Walter Hadley 24
George Hadley 21
Fanny Hadley 19
Samuel Hadley 19


1881 65 Rabone Lane Harborne Staffs.
William Hadley 50 moulder b Smethwick
Ann Hadley 47 b London
William Hadley 20 unm moulder iron
Thomas Hadley 19 "
Walter Hadley 14 office boy
George Hadley 12 scholar
Fanny Hadley 9
Samuel Hadley 9
Harry Hadley 6
all others born Smethwick

1871 Address: 3 Bridge Street Parish: Smethwick, Harborne Registration District: King's Norton
Hadley William 40 Head Moulder In Iron Foundry Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley Ann 37 Wife Wapping, Middlesex
Hadley William 10 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley Thomas 8 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley James 6 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley Walter 4 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley George 1 Son Harborne, Staffordshire



the other is this one in 1881 so maybe ours?

1881 census ..2 Watery Lane, Harborne
William Hadley,42,widower, moulder
William Hadley,19,son, single, forgeman iron?
James Hadley,17,son, single , ditto
Ann Jane Hadley,12, daughter
Maria Ann Hadley,9,daughter
Emma Hadley,6,daughter
All born Smethwick

1871 Brook Street Parish: Smethwick, Harborne Registration District: King's Norton
Hadley William 35 Head Iron Moulder Smethwick, Staffordshire
Hadley Elizabeth 35 Wife St Helens, Lancashire
Hadley Margaret M 11 Daughter Scholar Smethwick, Staffordshire
Hadley William T 8 Son Scholar Smethwick, Staffordshire
Hadley James 6 Son Scholar Smethwick, Staffordshire
Hadley Elizabeth A 4 Daughter Scholar Smethwick, Staffordshire
Hadley Ann J 1 Daughter Smethwick, Staffordshire

need our James in 1891

Can't see him.

I think James is in the Army in 1891.....

There is a James Hadley born abt 1866 in Smethwick who is in the Worcestershire Regiment.

He is home from Nov 1884 to 1886.

West Indies from 1886 to April 1892.

Home April 1992 to discharge in November 1996.

Recalled for South Africa and served there from March 1900 to November 1901.

Father is William living in Queen Street, Smethwick and then Rabone Lane.

James's occupation on sign up is Roller, a common job in iron works.

MarkCDodd wrote:There is a James Hadley born abt 1866 in Smethwick who is in the Worcestershire Regiment.

He is home from Nov 1884 to 1886.

West Indies from 1886 to April 1892.

Home April 1992 to discharge in November 1996.

Recalled for South Africa and served there from March 1900 to November 1901.

Father is William living in Queen Street, Smethwick and then Rabone Lane.

James's occupation on sign up is Roller, a common job in iron works.

so that would be the one with parents Wm and Ann
so maybe scrub the one married to Isabella

1891 65 Rabone Lane
William Hadley 60 widr
Walter Hadley 24
George Hadley 21
Fanny Hadley 19
Samuel Hadley 19


1881 65 Rabone Lane Harborne Staffs.
William Hadley 50 moulder b Smethwick
Ann Hadley 47 b London
William Hadley 20 unm moulder iron
Thomas Hadley 19 "
Walter Hadley 14 office boy
George Hadley 12 scholar
Fanny Hadley 9
Samuel Hadley 9
Harry Hadley 6
all others born Smethwick

1871 Address: 3 Bridge Street Parish: Smethwick, Harborne Registration District: King's Norton
Hadley William 40 Head Moulder In Iron Foundry Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley Ann 37 Wife Wapping, Middlesex
Hadley William 10 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley Thomas 8 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley James 6 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley Walter 4 Son Scholar Harborne, Staffordshire
Hadley George 1 Son Harborne, Staffordshire

can someone with find my past see who is living here in 1891 pls
86 Wills Street Smethwick