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ARC TBC - Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:20 pm
by LisaGR
Hello,

Can anyone here find anything about one Tryphine Ruffle? She's in the 1901 Census as living in Ewshott with her husband George and children. But I can't find anything else about her, and I'm a bit stumped on possible variations on her name.

In 1901 she's listed as being 45 and born in 1855.

(Seriously....Tryphine?!)

Many thanks in advance if you can help!

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:27 pm
by LisaGR
Oh, Update:

I found the family in the 1891 Census, under the spelling RUFFEE. Something to explore at least!

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:31 pm
by Maths girl
1901 Ewshott Hill, Crookham, Ewshott
RUFFLE, George Head Married M 50 1851 General Labourer Crondall, Hampshire
RUFFLE, Tryphine Wife Married F 46 1855 Crookham, Hampshire
RUFFLE, Harry Son Single M 16 1885 General Labourer Ewshott, Hampshire
RUFFLE, Leonard Son M 15 1886 Carter On Farm Ewshott, Hampshire
RUFFLE, William Son M 13 1888 Cowboy On Farm Ewshott, Hampshire
RUFFLE, Gertrude Daughter F 12 1889 Ewshott, Hampshire
RUFFLE, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1891 Ewshott, Hampshire
RUFFLE, Sidney Son M 7 1894 Ewshott, Hampshire

1891 Dares Farm, Ewshot, Crondall
RUFFEE, Geo Head Married M 40 1851 Labourer Crondall, Hampshire
RUFFEE, Tryphine Wife Married F 36 1855 Crondall, Hampshire
RUFFEE, Harry Son Single M 6 1885 Scholar Crondall, Hampshire
RUFFEE, Leonard Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar Crondall, Hampshire
RUFFEE, William Son Single M 3 1888 Crondall, Hampshire
RUFFEE, Gurtroh Daughter Single F 2 1889 Crondall, Hampshire
RUFFEE, Eliza Daughter Single F 0 (2M) 1891 Crondall, Hampshire

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:34 pm
by Maths girl
1911 Ewshott Hill Near Farnham Surry
RUFFLE, George Head Married 27 years M 59 1852 Farm Labourer Crondall Hants
RUFFLE, Ivyphine Wife Married F 56 1855 Crookham Hants 6 children born and living
RUFFLE, Leonard Son Single M 25 1886 Carpenter General Ewshot Hants
RUFFLE, William Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer General Ewshot Hants
RUFFLE, Sidney Son Single M 17 1894 House Boy Ewshot Hants

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:37 pm
by LisaGR
1911 Census. Why didn't I think of that :crazy:

Thanks! Now to see if I can dig up the marriage :)

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:41 pm
by Maths girl
Possible George before marriage

1881 Pankridge Street, Crondall
RUFFLE, Stephen Head Married M 67 1814 Ag Lab Crondall, Hampshire
RUFFLE, Martha Wife Married F 67 1814 Crondall, Hampshire
RUFFLE, George Son Single M 29 1852 Ag Lab Crondall, Hampshire
RUFFLE, Emma Daughter Single F 25 1856 Crondall, Hampshire

Marriage?

1884
William George Ruffell married Tryphina Lunn[?]
RUFFELL, William George Hartley Wintney Hampshire
1884 2C 314

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:42 pm
by peterd
1881 Pankridge Street, Crondall, Hampshire

Stephen RUFFLE M 67 Crondall, Hampshire, Ag Lab
Martha RUFFLE M 67 Crondall, Hampshire,
George RUFFLE U 29 Crondall, Hampshire, Ag Lab
Emma RUFFLE U 25 Crondall, Hampshire,


poss cousin ?

1881 Lower Swanthorpe, Crondall, Hampshire

George RUFFLE 35 Crondall, Hampshire, Ag Lab
Emily RUFFLE 38 Froyle, Hampshire,
Charles RUFFLE 7 Crondall, Hampshire, Scholar
Frederick W. RUFFLE 3 Crondall, Hampshire,
Edith RUFFLE 9 m Crondall, Hampshire,
Sarah RUFFLE 4 Crondall, Hampshire,

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:49 pm
by Maths girl
Saint Tryphine (also spelled Trifine, Triphine and Tréphine) is a semi-legendary Breton saint whose life is often considered to be the basis of the story of Bluebeard. In Brittany she is widely revered as a patron saint of sick children and those whose birth is overdue. The legend of Saint Tryphine probably derives from a historical individual who was the wife of the early Breton ruler Conomor.

Interestingly the most likely birth I spotted was for an unnamed female -- maybe she was a sickly baby or mother had problems and they were aware of this saint!

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:50 pm
by peterd
you beat me to it mg ha ha

Marriages Jun 1884

LUNN Tryphina Hartley Wintney 2c 314
RUFFELL William George Hartley Wintney 2c 314


Hartley Wintney about 6 miles from crondall

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:53 pm
by peterd
1881; 1 Linjara Terr East St, Farnham, Surr

Emily Marianne SELFE Head W 59 London, Middlesex, Income Derived From Dividends
Mary Emilie SELFE Daur 21 Aylesbury, Buckingham, Income Derived From Dividends
Tryphena LUNN Servt 26 Crookham, Hampshire, Cook Domestic Servt
Edith Mary GREGORY Servt 21 Churt, Surrey, Housemaid Domestic Servt

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:53 pm
by LisaGR
The places match up, and quite frankly with a name like this lady's I'm willing to take it as it is.

MG - that's the info I found on a google of the name too! It strikes me that St. Tryphine's a Breton saint; I don't think of Hampshire labourer families having much knowledge in that area, but then I don't know anything about her family, so who knows....

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:54 pm
by peterd
extracted

TRIPHENA LUNN
Christening: 31 AUG 1856 Crookham Cum Ewshott, Hampshire,

Father: GEORGE LUNN
Mother: MARIANNE

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:58 pm
by Maths girl
LisaGR wrote:The places match up, and quite frankly with a name like this lady's I'm willing to take it as it is.

MG - that's the info I found on a google of the name too! It strikes me that St. Tryphine's a Breton saint; I don't think of Hampshire labourer families having much knowledge in that area, but then I don't know anything about her family, so who knows....


I'm thinking sailors linking Hampshire to Brittany -- not so far off!

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:03 pm
by peterd
submitted

poss marriage

George Lunn
Birth: 1822 Crondall, Hampshire, England
Christening: 28 APR 1822 Crondall, Hampshire,


Spouse: Mary Ann Marlow
Marriage: DEC 1844 Farnham, , Hampshire



extracted

Marriages Dec 1844
Lunn George Farnham 4 140
MARLOW Mary Anne Farnham 4 140

Re: Tryphine (?!) Ruffle, Hants

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:04 pm
by Maths girl
marriage of father and mother ---snap peterd

Oct Nov Dec 1844 Farnham Surrey
Sarah Goddard
George Lunn
Mary Anne Marlow

Dinah Paice
Charles Rich
William Rummey

cf 1861 census

1861 Malt House, Malt House Road, Crondall
LUNE, George Head Married M 39 1822 Thatcher Crondall, Hampshire
LUNE, Mary Ann Wife Married F 48 1813 Crondall, Hampshire
MARLOW, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 26 1835 Crondall, Hampshire
MARLOW, Samuel Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Labourer Crondall, Hampshire
LUNE, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 15 1846 Crondall, Hampshire
LUNE, Maria Daughter Unmarried F 12 1849 Crondall, Hampshire
LUNE, Henry Son M 10 1851 Crondall, Hampshire
LUNE, James Son M 7 1854 Crondall, Hampshire
LUNE, Tryphena Daughter F 5 1856 Crondall, Hampshire