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Good evening everyone, I've been informed that I may get help If I stick a request here.

I'm starting (once again) to try and research the OAKES family of London. Chelmsford, Camberwell, Walthamstow, Hackney, possibly Stoke Newington, the Old Kent Road areas. Anyone familiar with this 'neck of the woods', or better still anyone already researching the Oakes's? Cheers, Tony.

What have you got so far Tony?
Names dates of birth etc...
Jo

whats your father dob the one who did the runner in 1913

Bit of background here.

I was brought up as A.L.O-P and I was under the impression that Dad's name was also Phillips, I thought his forenames were Andrew Charles Hamilton (Anthony). After looking into the name Phillips I got nowhere so I wrote to all the names in my Mam's address book (both parents had died before this quest took off).

I got two replies, one from Bannockburn Stirling Scotland which said that she married into the family and my husband died some years ago and never really spoke about his family. The other was from a very old Lady in Chelmsford, we were invited to visit her and her niece and she said that Dad's name never was Phillips, it was Oakes!

She remembers him being 6 ish years older than her and always seemed to be shouting at or being shouted at by their Mother. After one particularly loud exchange, my Dad ran out of the house and she never saw him again. So he had dumped his Surname and all his forenames!

She did bring out a small 'photo showing me and my little sister aged about five and two dressed in 'fancy dress' while taking part in a local Fete, so he had been in touch. As a birthday present, my wife paid for us to change our name by deed poll and regain the surname he dumped, but also keep the surname he #invented for himself! So now we are the O-P
His Date of Birth was 30th September 1901 at 166 St John's Road Walthamstow. His Dad was Arthur Charles and a bootmaker Journeyman.


Now you know about as much as I do! Cheers, Tony.

wonder if this is him ? born sep 30 would be registered dec qrt

Births Dec 1901
Oakes Arthur John H W. Ham 4a 455

could be him ?


1911; 39 Victoria Road, Holloway, Islington, London

Arthur Charles Oakes 38 hand sewn bootmaker, CAMBERWELL , Surrey
Elizabeth Mary Oakes 31, London
Elizabeth Amy Oakes 11, STOKE NEWINGTON , London
Arthur John Hurdley Oakes 10 Walthamstow, Essex
Sarah Doris Oakes 8, Lee, Kent
Harry Charles George Oakes 4, CAMBERWELL , Surrey
Lucy Jessie Edith Oakes 0, London
married 11 years
6 kids 5 living 1 died

marriage

Marriages Dec 1899

Oakes Arthur Charles Hackney 1b 1099
Sanford Elizabeth Mary Hackney 1b 1099

Peterd, where the heck did you find that lot?

That's more than I've found in twenty years! ! ! I'm sure it's 'im (my Grandad) as on my Dad's birth cert' it has his Dad's occupation as Bootmaker Journeyman and I remember a family rumour that someone in the family made orthopeadic boots and shoes at a large London Hospital.

I'll copy and paste that lot if I may and take it to the Wiltshire and Swindon Family History thingy.

Thanks a million, and then some more. Cheers, Tony.

1901; 57 Stonebridge rd, Tottenham

Arthur Charles Oakes 25 head, shoemaker (boots) Old Kent Rd, London
Elizabeth Mary Oakes 20 : Notting Hill,
Elizth Amy Oakes 11 Months Stoke Newington


in the same house

Matilda Jane Oliver 48 head

Edward E Mater (bates) 23 head
Gertrude Mater 22
Edward A Mater 6 Months
William Mater 21

Kleftiwallah wrote:Peterd, where the heck did you find that lot?

That's more than I've found in twenty years! ! ! I'm sure it's 'im (my Grandad) as on my Dad's birth cert' it has his Dad's occupation as Bootmaker Journeyman and I remember a family rumour that someone in the family made orthopeadic boots and shoes at a large London Hospital.

I'll copy and paste that lot if I may and take it to the Wiltshire and Swindon Family History thingy.

Thanks a million, and then some more. Cheers, Tony.

you find out sometimes what there called isnt what there registered as ?

1891 chapel st, Hythe

George Elvery 43
Mary A Elvery 42
Charles H Elvery 13
Florence H Elvery 7
Frederick W Elvery 4
Arthur C Oakes 17 Boarder, Bootmaker, Camberwell

might be charles ?

Arthur Charles Oakes
Regiment or Corps: Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry, 1st Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry
Regimental Number: 8478, 8478

this might be him ?

1881 Nursery Square,Old Windsor, Berkshire

Wiliam OAKES 29 Camberwell, Surrey, Master Bootmaker
Susan Ann OAKES 24 London, Middlesex,
Arthur George OAKES 8 Camberwell, Surrey, Scholar
Susan OAKES 1 Sheppards Bush, Middlesex,
James JERRETT Lodger 25 London, Middlesex, Bricklayers Laborer

been alted to Oakes

William Daller
[William Oakes]
[William Oakes]

1871 cant read St, Camberwell

William Daller 52 bootmaker, ? suffolk
Margaret Daller 44
William Daller 19 bootmaker
George Daller 12
Charlette Daller 10
Henry Daller 7
Maria Daller 4
rest Peckham, Surrey

1861; 6 Eden Pl, Camberwell, Surrey

William Oakes 42 master bootmaker, Eye, Suffolk
Margaret L Oakes 34
Amelia Oakes 14
Margaret Oakes 13
William Oakes 9
Maria Oakes 5
George Oakes 2
Charlotte A Oakes 4 Months
Sidney G Nearman 16 apprentice
rest born Camberwell, Surrey