ARC TBC.............Frain-Littleton-Harbutt connections

[Rob]

I know they are connected but trying to prove it is not easy and contray to what i see on other peoples trees i'm not going to add just for "padding out " purposes.
Martin Frain b.1832-37 Litchfield (but has Irish connections) - Ann Littleton b.1838 Litchfield. I can't find a marriage.
I have a death for a Martin Frain.West Bromwich 1866 OCT-NOV-DEC.
Now that could be him because in 1871 there's an Ann Frain living in Seven stars Buildings,Oldbury.The youngest child Ann Frain 3years would have been concieved while Martin Frain was still alive. Also the lodgers are of Irish descent and Seven stars Buildings are full of Irish families.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =865988228

Also we have an Ann Frain born 1867 who marries Joseph Harbutt and later William Fisher.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =271952991
Does this ann Unknown connect?

[Northern Lass]

some census may help!

also until you know her father is Martin dont add him I will amend
could be Martin but where is Charles b 1858 on 1861
and where is Martin

on 1871 son is called Martin
but need more info

can you post some census



Bcc slow at moment

is this what you are going to be doing now you are retired
oh joy

[Rob]

Right ok Mein Kommandant!!
BCC is slow and it's getting on me nerves so i'll add all info later.Got a window to paint now.

[Northern Lass]

Right ok Mein Kommandant!!
BCC is slow and it's getting on me nerves so i'll add all info later.Got a window to paint now.

Careful! or you can go and watch Paint dry!!

why haven't you asked for this to be looked up!!!!!


1873
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
FISHER William FRAIN Anne Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/4/392


poss for his first marriage needs looking up
1859
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
FISHER William JACKSON Elizabeth West Bromwich, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 23/3/339


and another thing
have you ordered that certif yet

[Northern Lass]

The 1881 confirms it is the same one

I will connect up
but if someone can post the census for 1871 and 1881 pls it would help

[Jimmy]

Marriages Dec 1862.
Battelle Bridget. Lichfield. 6b. 577.
Frayn*. Ma*. Lichfield. 6b. 577.
Littleton Ann. Lichfield. 6b 577.
Turner Henry. Lichfield. 6b. 577.

[Jimmy]

1861. 21 Old Sandford St, Lichfield.
Francis Littleton 48. Ag lab.
Maria Littleton 44. Maria. Birmingham.
Elizabeth Littleton 25.
Ann Littleton 23. Dau. Unm.
Francis Littleton 18. Son.
Arthur Littleton 15. Son.
Thomas Littleton 11. Son.
Frederick Littleton 8. Son.
Emely Littleton 7.dau.
Charles Littleton 3. Grandson.
Thomas Wm Littleton 5 Months. Grandson

Others born Lichfield

[Jimmy]

1871. Seven Stars Building, Oldbury.
Ann Frain 31. Widow. Char woman. Lichfield.
Charles Frain 13. Son. Lichfield.
Martin Frain 7. Son. Lichfield.
Eliza Frain 5. Dau.
Ann Frain 3. Dau.
Ann Havckin 34. Widow. Lodger. Ireland.
Catharine Havckin 8.
James Havckin 2.

Others born Oldbury.

[Jimmy]

1881.
William FISHER Head M Male 48 Oxford General Labourer
Ann FISHER Wife M Female 43 Lichfield, Stafford, England
William FISHER Son U Male 20 Oldbury General Labourer
Sarah FISHER Daur Female 16 Oldbury
Arthur FISHER Son Male 7 Oldbury
Joseph FISHER Son Male 5 Oldbury
Martin FRAIN Son Male 17 Lichfield General Labourer
Ann FRAIN Daur Female 15 Oldbury

21 Canal S.Park Lane.
Oldbury, Worcester.

[Jimmy]

1873
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
FISHER William FRAIN Anne Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/4/392.

William Fisher.
Groom's Birth Date: 1841.
Groom's Age: 32.
Bride's Name: Anne Frain.
Bride's Birth Date: 1839.
Bride's Age: 34.
Marriage Date: 14 Apr 1873.
Marriage Place: Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: William Fisher.
Bride's Father's Name: Francis Lytleton.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07381-6.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1849594.

[Northern Lass]

Brill finding that Jimmy

[Rob]

Thanks Jimmy i knew it was a connection.
I'll start adding to BCC as soon as it gets back to normal.

[Northern Lass]

Rob have connected and added you just need to slot in census adding any kids of course
from census info
cant add link as it is running real slow

[Rob]

ok

[Northern Lass]

Here you go
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =867435155

oh and add date!! you add stuff!
I am off to paint a window now