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ARC TBC.............Emma Guest born abt 1838 Rowley Regis

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Need some help tracking down parents for this Emma ...

Holy Trinity, Langley - 23 Sept 1872
Andrew Gould, 35, B, Nailer, of Langley Green, Father William Gould, Nailer
Emma Guest, 34, S, of Langley Green, Father Richard Guest, Collier
Wit : Enoch Lane and Elizabeth Deboo

She is on BCC here ...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =266067025

Only Richard Guest I have found so far ??

1841 census Wombourn, Staffordshire, England
Richard Guest,65,nailer,
James Guest,20,nailer,
William Guest,11,
Emma Guest,4

Pretty stuck on this one :?
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Re: Emma Guest born abt 1838 Rowley Regis

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1851 census transcription details for: Union Street, Tipton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 2029 Folio: 201 Page: 14

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Tipton
Parish: Tipton Enum. District: 1G
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Union Street, Tipton
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation ,Disability Where Born
GUEST, Richard Head Married M 40 1811 Collier Shropshire
GUEST, Matilda Wife Married F 38 1813 Tipton Staffordshire
GUEST, Thomas Son M 14 1837 Collier Tipton Staffordshire
GUEST, Phoebe Daughter F 12 1839 Scholar Tipton Staffordshire
GUEST, Richard Son M 10 1841 Scholar Tipton Staffordshire
GUEST, Edward Son M 8 1843 Scholar Tipton Staffordshire
GUEST, Matilda Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar Tipton Staffordshire
GUEST, James Son M 2 1849 Tipton Staffordshire
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Re: Emma Guest born abt 1838 Rowley Regis

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I can only see one regis one for an Emma Guest

1838
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
GUEST Emma Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/2/22

and wondering if this is her
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =738967343

I think we need another look at that marriage to check father

but they do use name Richard for kids.....
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The name Jane is here too

wonder if he is a Richard Tobias ....
or known as Richard

1841 : Club Buildings, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Tobias Guest, 20, Coal Getter
Jane Guest, 20
George Guest, 4
Emma Guest, 2
William Guest, 10 Months
All Born County
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Re: Emma Guest born abt 1838 Rowley Regis

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1851 - Club Buildings, Rowley Regis

Jane Guest, Head, 34, Wid, Nailer
George Guest, Son, 14, Nailer
Emma Guest, Daur, 12, Nailer
Eliza Guest, Daur, 8, Nurse
John Guest, Son, 4, Scholar
Rebecca Guest, Daur, 2
Ephraim Guest, Son, 2 Months
All Born in Rowley
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Re: Emma Guest born abt 1838 Rowley Regis

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There is a death recorded in Rowley, 1842 for Tobias Guest
1841 is a bit early for his death - son Ephraim was born in 1851

There is a death registered for Richard Guest in 1851 - Kingswinford
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expat we need the kids added for Emma and Andrew pls :wink:

those names rebecca and Jane ...I think same one you know :?
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The witnesses on the marriage are Enoch Lane and Elizabeth Deboo

Possible marriage for Enoch Lane and Eliza Guest (Emma's sister) Dec Qtr 1866 - Stourbridge District - not on WMBMD so likely to have been Christchurch Quinton - favourite church for people living in the area.
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Antie Em wrote:There is a death recorded in Rowley, 1842 for Tobias Guest
1841 is a bit early for his death - son Ephraim was born in 1851

There is a death registered for Richard Guest in 1851 - Kingswinford


something odd isnt there :?
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1871 Census : Trinity Street, Langley

Enoch Lane, Head, 26 Puddler, Born in Dudley
Eliza Lane, Wife, 28, Born in Rowley Regis (Possibly Emmas' sister)
Mary J Lane, Daur, 6, Scholar
Selina Lane, Daur, 4
Rebecca Lane, Daur, 3
Betsy Lane, Daur, 3 Months
Others Born in Langley
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Northern Lass wrote:
Antie Em wrote:There is a death recorded in Rowley, 1842 for Tobias Guest
1841 is a bit early for his death - son Ephraim was born in 1851

There is a death registered for Richard Guest in 1851 - Kingswinford


something odd isnt there :?


Richard could have died in hospital or in an accident in Kingswinford - too early to get a birth date from GRO records
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Re: Emma Guest born abt 1838 Rowley Regis

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Think this might be Jane in 1861

1861 : Langley Green, Oldbury, Staffordshire
Amos Hanson, Head, 50, Nailer, Born in Whiteheath Gate, Rowley Regis
Jane Hanson, Wife, 44, Nailer
Harriet Hanson, Daur, 18, Nailer, Born in Langley, Worcs
John Hanson, Son, 14, Coal Miner
Rebecca Hanson, Daur, 10, Nailer
Ephraim Hanson, Son, 8
Fanny Hanson, Daur, 3, Scholar, Born in Langley, Worcs
Jane Hanson, Daur, 1
Eliza Guest, Daur in Law, 18, Nail Maker
Others Born in Rowley Regis

Possible Marriage :
1851/316 - St Thomas, Dudley - Amos Anson and Jane Guest

On BCC here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ett-Family
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Re: Emma Guest born abt 1838 Rowley Regis

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Ok I am connecting up Emma looks good for same one

why she puts Richard on marriage dont know

Tobias prob dies 1842 he is on 1841 and there is a death
need to see if on transcripts will do in a min

but those other kids
John
Rebecca
Ephraim

need dobs and marriages ..............who do they put a father
will connect to amos for moment
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Later baptism,
Emma Guest.
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Oct 1842.
Baptism/Christening Place: Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Father's Name: Tobias Guest.
Mother's Name: Jane Guest.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05280-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 367833.
Reference Number: item 3 p 91 ln631.
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Thanks Jimmy

any other bapts for any of the kids?

and any marriages for John and Ephraim pls
Rebecca marries a Dearne but we dont have marriage info

1861 : Langley Green, Oldbury, Staffordshire
Amos Hanson, Head, 50, Nailer, Born in Whiteheath Gate, Rowley Regis
Jane Hanson, Wife, 44, Nailer
Harriet Hanson, Daur, 18, Nailer, Born in Langley, Worcs
John Hanson, Son, 14, Coal Miner
Rebecca Hanson, Daur, 10, Nailer
Ephraim Hanson, Son, 8
Fanny Hanson, Daur, 3, Scholar, Born in Langley, Worcs
Jane Hanson, Daur, 1
Eliza Guest, Daur in Law, 18, Nail Maker
Others Born in Rowley Regis

1871 : Langley Green Road, Oldbury, Staffordshire
Amos Anson, Head, 60, Nail Maker, Born in Whiteheath Gate, Rowley Regis
Jane Hanson, Wife, 55, Nailer
Harriet Hanson, Daur, 18, Nailer, Born in Langley, Worcs
Rebecca Dearn, Daur, 21,
William Dearn, Son in Law, 23, Born in Birmingham
Fanny Hanson, Daur, 14, Scholar, Born in Langley, Worcs
Others Born in Rowley Regis
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