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Laura Piper b abt 1879---NL adding
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:57 am
by Northern Lass
Can we find her on earlier census pls
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =872425757on the 1911 is a Dennis Piper with them
is it a brother
1911 4 Lower Ault St Spon Lane West Bromwich
EVITTS, Samuel Head Married M 32 Glass Maker Sheet West Bromwich Staffs
EVITTS, Laura Wife Married 12 years 32 West Bromwich Staffs( 5 children 4 alive)
EVITTS, Elizabeth Daughter 11 School West Bromwich Staffs
EVITTS, Samuel Job Son 7 School West Bromwich Staffs
EVITTS, Viloet May Daughter 3 West Bromwich Staffs
EVITTS, Constance Daughter 1 West Bromwich Staffs
PARKES, Thomas Boarder Single 23 General Labourer Birmingham Warwickshire
PIPER, Dennis Boarder Single 29 Miner Coal West Bromwich Staff
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:46 pm
by Northern Lass
There is this one
I think it is this one....
1881 23 Messenger Lane West Bromwich
Samuel Piper head mar 30 Tailer b Birmingham
Fanny Piper wife mar 30
Ada Piper dau 11
Frances? Piper dau 8
Constance Piper dau 4 b Derby
Laura Piper dau 2 b Derby
Rosannah Piper dau 1 b Derby
Dennis Piper son under 3 mths b West Bromwich
all others born Birmingham
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:50 pm
by Northern Lass
poss on free bmd
Births Mar 1878 Piper Laura Hannah Derby 7b 495
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bmsgh
1881 PIPER Denis V West Bromwich North East Sandwell Register Office WBNE/74/213
free bmd
Births Mar 1881 PIPER Denis Valentine W.Bromwich 6b 857
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poss for Frances.....Births Mar 1873 Piper Frances Flora Birmingham 6d 78
poss for Constance....Births Sep 1876 PIPER Constance Victoria Derby 7b 453
and poss for Rosannah -Births Dec 1879 Piper Rosina Beatrice Derby 7b 509
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:58 pm
by Northern Lass
I seem to remember there was a query on Ada....
can we find the 1871 pls for the above family
and a birth for Ada
and a marriage for Samuel Piper and Frances
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:33 pm
by Northern Lass
I think this is Samuel with Parents in 1871 down as Peper on ancestry
and I think that is fanny and ada with them
1871 no 5 7? Court Bristol St Birmingham
Ebenezar Thos Piper head mar 45 Tailor
Eliza Piper wife 44
Samuel Piper son unm 21 tailor
Betsy Piper dau 13 scholar
Eliza Piper dau 9 scholar b Walsall
Fanny Low niece mar 27 button carder
Ady Low dau 1
all others born Birmingham Warwickshire
is there a marriage for Samuel Piper and Frances/Fanny
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:41 pm
by Northern Lass
poss..
Births Dec 1869
LOWE Ada Elizabeth Birmingham 6d 42
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:57 pm
by Northern Lass
poss
1890
PIPER William S EVANS Fanny Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/002/418
Marriages Jun 1890
BUCK Caroline Stourbridge 6c 220
EVANS Fanny Stourbridge 6c 220
FOX David Stourbridge 6c 220
Piper William Samuel Stourbridge 6c 220
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:11 pm
by mallosa
1861: 65 Frances Street, Aston Duddeston, BirminghamFanny Evans 49 Head Wid Toft? Cheshire
Samuel Evans 24 Son Unm Porter Cheshire
Richard E Evans 20 Son Unm Clerk (Railway) Manchester
Emma Evans 18 Dau Boot Binder Birmingham
Charles L Evans 16 Son Clerk (Railway) Birmingham
George J Evans 14 Son Jnr Clerk (Merchant) Birmingham
Fanny Evans 12 Dau Birmingham
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:15 pm
by Northern Lass
not sure on that one ...
I think from memory we had the marriage at Sandwell regis office and the name Piper was odd or his name was diferent.
if that marriage has father ebenezer then that is our Samuel
do we have Samuel and fanny in later census after 1881 pls
and especially the 1911 pls someone
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:29 pm
by mallosa
has Samuel died....
1891: Virgins End, West Bromwich
Fanny Piper 44 Wid Charwoman Birmingham
Elizabeth Piper 9 mths Dau West Bromwich
Dennis Piper 10 Son West Bromwich
Lizzie Aston 48 Lodger Marr Shirt Seamstress Walsall
Rosa Woolley 9 Visitor Birmingham
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:25 pm
by Northern Lass
Can we find Samuel on the 1861 pls
I think he is a Samuel John ......and there is this
Births Sep 1849
PIPER Samuel John Birmingham 16 307
and this
1884
PIPER Samuel J WARDEN Mary A West Bromwich Register Office (WBRO) Sandwell Register Office WBRO/14/139
I cant see a death for Samuel between 1881 and 1891
and on 1891 Fanny is down as wid.
Re: Laura Piper b abt 1879
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:57 pm
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:poss
1890
PIPER William S EVANS Fanny Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/002/418
Marriages Jun 1890
BUCK Caroline Stourbridge 6c 220
EVANS Fanny Stourbridge 6c 220
FOX David Stourbridge 6c 220
Piper William Samuel Stourbridge 6c 220
Ok thanks to RF for look up
it isnt this one
this one has a father Joseph Piper and William is a Safe maker not a tailor.
and Fanny is aged 47 in 1890 and William is aged 25 in 1890
so not ours