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Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:02 pm
by mumbles
This Eliza Shilvock

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =490252565

is I believe this Eliza Shilvock

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =125105938

Reasoning :- Her brother was Joseph Shilvock and her sister Mary Ann Shilvock married a Joel Hall both of whom appear as lodgers with George and Eliza in 1861 :-

1861 Census New Street Hasbury Stourbridge Worcs.
George Willetts Head 24 Gun Barrell Filer born Rowley Regis
Eliza Willetts wife 20 Nailer
Caroline Willetts dau 4mths.
Joel Hall Lodger 20 Spade Maker born Hasbury Worcs.
Joseph Shilvock lodger 17 Nailer born Hasbury Worcs.
Rest born Halesowen Worcs.

In turn I can link Isaac Willetts a son of George and Eliza to Ellen Allen who married a Thomas Mondon before marrying Isaac Willetts ( All on bcc)

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:11 pm
by linell
I was just going to post that Mumbles, I think it is the same Eliza too. Is your Thomas Mondon (Mundon?)

Linell.

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:07 pm
by mumbles
Linell
Thomas Mondon or Mundon is a difficult surname as I have only found a few records but I am still trying

Marriage I am working from :
Halesowen St. John
9/10/1881 Thomas Mondon 20 Bach. Labourer of Lapal father Henry Labourer
Ellen Allen 20 sp. 20 Nailer of Hasbury father Francis Allen Miner
Witnesses :- Joseph Hipkiss and Eliza Williams

Have found 1891 census for Thomas Mundon and Eliza and children
and 1901 Census for Issac Willetts and Ellen and stepchildren Mondon
and 1911 Census
Not found Thomas and Father before marriage

Isaac I can trace back to his father George Willetts and Eliza Shilvock

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:55 pm
by mumbles
Have added in all details of Mondon and Willetts and Allen
but have not connected to Shilvock
Cannot find Thomas Mondon or Mundon and parents yet

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =802356499

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:05 pm
by FarSide
1851
Gosty Hill, Rowley
William Simmons 43 - Lab at Canal (Timmins on image)
Salina Timmons 45
Harriet Walters 24 - daug - widow - Nailmaker
Henry Mondon 23 - son in law - Canal lab - b Chalford, Glouc
Mary Mondon 18
others b Rowley

1861
Valley bank, Lapal
Henry Mondon 33 - Canal lab - b Chalford, Glouc
Mary Mondon 28 - b Gosty Hill
Henry Mondon 2 - b Halesowen

1871
Valley bank, Lapal
Henry Munday 44 - Naviagator? - b Biseley, Glouc
Mary Munday 39 - b Rowley
William Munday 19 - Labourer in Iron works - b Rowley
Henry Munday 13 - b Rowley
Thomas Munday 9
John Munday 7
Samuel Munday 5
Hannah Munday 3
others b Halesowen

1881
Lapal
Henry Mundy 55 - Labourer on Canal - b Stroud, Glouc
Mary Mundy 50 - b Gosty hill
Henry Mundy 22 - Labourer on Canal
Thomas Mundy 19 - Labourer on Canal
John Mundy 17 - Labourer on Canal
Samuel Mundy 15 - Boatman on Canal
Harriet Mundy 13
Harry Mundy 6 - grandson
others b Lapal

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:22 pm
by FarSide
Poss
1849
MONDEN Henry TIMMINS Mary Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/009/344

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:43 pm
by FarSide
Poss for Henry and Mary..

1841
Alstone, Cheltenham, Glouc
Humphrey Mondon 50 - Ag lab
Ann Mondon 35
Jane Mondon 15
Henery Mondon 10
Thos Mondon 7
Mary Ann Mondon 5
Charles Mondon 10 Mo
all b in c

1841
William Timmins 30 - Ag lab
Selina Timmins 35
Harriet Timmins 15
Elizabeth Timmins 12
Henry Timmins 8 (looks like Mary, age in female col)
all b in c

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:46 pm
by FarSide
1841
William Timmins 30 - Ag lab
Selina Timmins 35
Harriet Timmins 15
Elizabeth Timmins 12
Henry Timmins 8 (looks like Mary, age in female col)
all b in c


Mary's parents

Extracted
WILLIAM TIMMINS
Marriages:
Spouse: SELENA WESSON
Marriage: 19 SEP 1825 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

They are both on BCC
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ngs-Family

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:29 am
by linell
mumbles wrote:Linell
Thomas Mondon or Mundon is a difficult surname as I have only found a few records but I am still trying

Marriage I am working from :
Halesowen St. John
9/10/1881 Thomas Mondon 20 Bach. Labourer of Lapal father Henry Labourer
Ellen Allen 20 sp. 20 Nailer of Hasbury father Francis Allen Miner
Witnesses :- Joseph Hipkiss and Eliza Williams

Have found 1891 census for Thomas Mundon and Eliza and children
and 1901 Census for Issac Willetts and Ellen and stepchildren Mondon
and 1911 Census
Not found Thomas and Father before marriage

Isaac I can trace back to his father George Willetts and Eliza Shilvock


Thanks Mumbles that is really interesting, I knew the Halesowen Mundon family, my friend Married a Mundon from Hasbury, I actually spoke to him on the phone recently, should have asked for his family history. Cheers from Linell.

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:12 am
by Northern Lass
Mumbles do you want me to connect the 2 Elizas up?

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:43 am
by mumbles
Yes please NL
I will add the Mondon details although surname keeps changing
I think Linell is right with Mundon . I used Mondon because a Mondon already on bcc

Thanks farside for the Mondon details

I found one more

1861 Gosty Hill Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Timins Head Labourer
Selina Timins wife 55 born Halesowen
William Monday grd.son 9 scholar
Rest born Rowley Regis

I think that confirms Timmins / Mondon Link

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:45 am
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Yes please NL
I will add the Mondon details although surname keeps changing
I think Linell is right with Mundon . I used Mondon because a Mondon already on bcc

Thanks farside for the Mondon details

I found one more

1861 Gosty Hill Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Timins Head Labourer
Selina Timins wife 55 born Halesowen
William Monday grd.son 9 scholar
Rest born Rowley Regis

I think that confirms Timmins / Mondon Link


we can run both Mundon and Mondon

so use which you like will connect now

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:51 am
by Northern Lass
I am adding the marriage now too for Eliza

will put link on when done it is at St Kenelms Romsley not Clent will amend

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:59 am
by Northern Lass
Ok added
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... d=90761029

Thread open for Benjamin Harris and George willetts

do you want this archived ?

Re: Shilvock to Willetts to Mondon to Allen connection

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:45 am
by mumbles
All added and thanks everyone

Have used Mondon as it was most frequently used
but I seem to remember Mundons in Black Country and was there not a Tommy Mundon who used to write for Black Country Bugle ?