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Lynn Coombes wrote:Thanks for everything posted so far... I'm a little "green" on this forum.... I hope my posts and query are now in the right area. Yes.. I would believe that is the baptism of our Rosannah Raybould. I did find the name of MARY BRETTELL..(as the wife of James Raybould and mother of our Rosanna) but have no way of proving it...with the information available to me right now. I now see this family on the BCC and that is great.. perhaps someone else will find it and know some answers and information they can provide. thx. Lynn

Extracted
JAMES RAYBOULD
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY BRETTELL
Marriage: 16 MAR 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

Rosannah Raybould here..
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5591&p=68028

Where is Rosanna on 1841?

did we find her?

Can anyone see any of these kids pls on 1841

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =762230308

Can someone with the Halesowen transcripts pls post the marriage for a Thomas Manger and Mary Raybould

I think it is our Mary Raybould remarried

MARY RAYBOLD
Marriages:
Spouse: THOMAS MANGER
Marriage: 08 APR 1833 Halesowen, Worcester, Extracted

1841 has this

New Street /Lawrences Lane so right area
and Thomas is a shoemaker ....which is what I think son Thomas becomes
kids for James Raybould and Mary not there
but in household or next door is a Brettle cant read name
Lennoy? Brettle 45 (female column)
James Brettle 20

1841 Lawrence Lane Rowley Regis
Thomas Manger 40 shoe maker n
Mary Manger 35
William Manger 8
David Manger 4
/Lucy? Brettle 45
James Brettle 20 chain m
all others born in County

DAVID MANGER Christening: 04 FEB 1838 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: THOMAS MANGER
Mother: MARY Extracted


could be this
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =702597977

8 Apr 1833 St John The Baptist Halesowen
Thomas MANGER otp Wid
Mary RAYBOLD otp Wid
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Mary
Wit; Solomon Brettle George G. Fiddian

rockyfowler wrote:8 Apr 1833 St John The Baptist Halesowen
Thomas MANGER otp Wid
Mary RAYBOLD otp Wid
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Mary
Wit; Solomon Brettle George G. Fiddian

Thanks RF

this is her I know it is!!

I know Thomas RAyboulds marriage says James Raybould shoemaker and no dec'd on
but we know there are mistakes

I think that on Thomas marriage he puts father as James Raybould
and for somereason puts shoemaker
he is living here in 1851...........area is good

1851 Census
Address: Peartree St, Redhal Hill [HO107 2028 513 Pg 11]
Thomas Raybould; Head; M; 25; Journeyman Shoemaker
Ann Raybould; Wife; M; 25; Journeyman Shoemaker
Betsey Raybould; Daur; 3; Scholar
Rebecca Raybould; Daur; 2; Scholar
Joseph Raybould; Son; 6 mths

and calls his son David too

need 1851 with Thomas manger on pls

SOLOMON BRETTELL
Christening: 31 JUL 1809 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: THOMAS BRETTELL
Mother: SARAH Extracted


MARY BRETTELL
Christening: 14 JUN 1795 Rowley Regis, Stafford
Parents:
Father: THOMAS BRETTELL
Mother: SARAH Extracted

or maybe Lucy is actually a Lucy Brettle sister to Mary
Solomon is maybe a rellie /cousin

MARY BRETTLE Christening: 29 SEP 1799 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: WM. BRETTLE
Mother: MARY
Extracted

LUCY BRETTLE
Christening: 15 MAY 1791 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Father: WM. BRETTLE
Mother: MARY Extracted


MARY BRETTELL Christening: 18 APR 1807 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH BRETTELL
Mother: MARY Extracted


LUCY BRETTELL Christening: 09 JUL 1809 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH BRETTELL
Mother: MARY Extracted

Lucy Brettle is born abt 1791
1851 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis
James Brettle age 30 B. Rowley Chainmaker
Hannah age 32 Chain maker B. Cradley
Hardmonds age 4 B. Cradley
Susannah age 2 B. Cradley
Lucy age 60 Mother B.Rowley


need the dob of Mary "manger" to see when she is born
need 1851 pls for thomas manger and mary

1851
MANGER, Thomas Head Married M 53 1798 Shoe Maker
Parish of Litterworth
Leicestershire
MANGER, Mary Wife Married F 50 1801
Parish of Rowley
Staffordshire
MANGER, William Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Shoe Maker
Parish of Rowley
Staffordshire
MANGER, David Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Trace Maker
Parish of Rowley
Staffordshire
MANGER, James Son Unmarried M 5 1846 At Home
Parish of Rowley
Staffordshire

Lawrence Lane, Rowley Regis

rockyfowler wrote:1851
MANGER, Thomas Head Married M 53 1798 Shoe Maker
Parish of Litterworth
Leicestershire
MANGER, Mary Wife Married F 50 1801
Parish of Rowley
Staffordshire
MANGER, William Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Shoe Maker
Parish of Rowley
Staffordshire
MANGER, David Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Trace Maker
Parish of Rowley
Staffordshire
MANGER, James Son Unmarried M 5 1846 At Home
Parish of Rowley
Staffordshire

Lawrence Lane, Rowley Regis

Brill thanks RF

so we have a birth there her name could be verified then as Brettle hopefully

these do look a match
MARY BRETTLE Christening: 29 SEP 1799 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: WM. BRETTLE
Mother: MARY
Extracted

LUCY BRETTLE
Christening: 15 MAY 1791 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Father: WM. BRETTLE
Mother: MARY Extracted

WEll I cant find that birth for James Manger b abt 1845

aggghhhhhhhh

I think the Wm Brettell alliance is to a Mary Priest

Can someone have a look at this pls see what they think

and can anyone find that birth for James Manger in abt 1846 I will send for it then to see if mother is Mary Brettle

I think Lucy and Mary are sisters

James Raybould dies
Mary marries Thomas Manger

I think the bapt for Mary is good at RR ....and perhaps Lucy was never married and name of Joseph
as father was just added to certif by her son