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is Wm Batty another kid of Phebes?

William Betty christened on 17 Sep 1809 in Halesowen, parents John and Phebe Betty

Could John Betty/Batey be Phebes first husband?

Northern Lass wrote:Ok Barb who is Phebe b 1834 dau of do we know?

Haven't dug too deeply into the other BATTYs, but have just found this marriage of a Phebe Battey

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1854
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BATTEY Phebe PARRY William Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/013/307

I'll take a look on Ancestry for census for William & Phebe.

Dig wrote:

is Wm Batty another kid of Phebes?

William Betty christened on 17 Sep 1809 in Halesowen, parents John and Phebe Betty

Could John Betty/Batey be Phebes first husband?

So we dont know who Phebe belongs to is that right?

this may be her marraige

1854
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BATTEY Phebe PARRY William Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/013/307


and Wm may be son of John and Phebe

think could have somat here ladies

WILLIAM BETTY Christening: 17 SEP 1809 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN BETTY
Mother: PHEBE Extracted


THOS. BATTEY Christening: 02 JUN 1816 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN BATTEY
Mother: PHEBE Extracted

JOHN BATTY Marriages:
Spouse: PHEBE HARISS
Marriage: 02 MAY 1808 Tipton, Stafford, Extracted


and

JOHN BATY Marriages:
Spouse: PHEBE CADMORE
Messages:
Extracted

BC Wench wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:Ok Barb who is Phebe b 1834 dau of do we know?

Haven't dug too deeply into the other BATTYs, but have just found this marriage of a Phebe Battey

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1854
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BATTEY Phebe PARRY William Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/013/307

I'll take a look on Ancestry for census for William & Phebe.

I think it best to get confirmation of this marriage between Phebe Battey & William Parry to see who her father is before looking at census. I think Ihave them in 1861

1861 Census "“ Tory Street, Rowley Regis
William Parrey "“ Head.M "“ 26 "“ Miner Stone "“ Rowley Regis
Phebe Parrey "“ Wife "“ 26 "“ Brickmaker "“ Dudley
Ann Eliza Parrey "“ Dau "“ 6 "“ Scholar "“ Rowley Regis
William Parry "“ Son "“ 1 "“ Rowley Regis
Hanns (Hannah?) Parry "“ Sister.UM "“ 12 "“ Nurse Maid "“ Rowley Regis

1851 census there is a William Parray with parents and siblings living next door to Elizabeth (Batty) Westwood. Best wait for confirmation of marriage.

PHEBE BATTY Christening: 19 APR 1835 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BATTY
Mother: OLIVE Extracted

interesting that name Olive Rosannah uses it for one of her kids

Do you think Olive is her real name? William Batey might not have married her. But the only marriage I could find was:
William Batey and Eliza Sidaway on 25 Dec 1836 at St Thomas, Dudley

Can we find William Batey living with wife Eliza near Rowley Regis in any of the censuses? Or can we find a William Batey living with someone called Olive?

Right split this off for William Batty poss son of Phebe
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =824043194

and his poss dau Phebe

will add marriage in min on this thread for Phebe

Marriage info courtesy of Rf

5 March 1854 St Thomas Dudley
William Parry minor bach miner Dudley Benjamin Parry Engineer
Phebe Battey minor spinster Dudey William Battey Labourer
Banns
X both
Wit - X Ann Parry Richard Birkins??

Barb said....on the 1851 census there is a William Parray with parents and siblings living next door to Elizabeth (Batty) Westwood.

So that looks like Phebe Batty is dau of Wm Batty and Olive (bapt found prev)
And Phebe is with John Parkes and Grandma Phebe Batty on 1841 and 1851

1841 : Waterfall Lane, Rowley Regis, Staffs
John Parkes, 40, Nailer
Phoebe Parkes, 50, Nailer
Elizabeth Parkes, 19
Mariah Parkes, 15
Samuel Parkes, 15
Eli Parkes, 14
/James Bialy (Baity?)...son of Rosannah Batty
Phebe Bialy 5---------------who is this dau of? see Q below
Mary Bialy 3 mths ----dau of Elizabeth Batty.


All Born in County

1851 : Waterfall Lane, Rowley Regis, Staffs
John Parkes, Head, 49, Nailer
Phoebe Batty, Lodger, 65, Nailer
Eli Batty, Son of Lodger, 20, Miner
Phoebe Batty, Daur of Lodger, 17, Labourer
Mary Ann Batty, Daur of Lodger, 10, Labourer
All Born in Rowley Regis


not sure whether to add him to this family with a note

is Wm Batty on census anywhere?

PHEBE BATTY Christening: 19 APR 1835 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BATTY
Mother: OLIVE Extracted

added in notes so flagging to archive