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Ok this is driving me nuts!!

I have done 2 marriage look ups for this lass ....here....

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =933229533

and on the first marriage in 1880 she puts....
Father Joseph Poole - Collier dead
witness is a Thomas Poole and Elizabeth Cornfield
She is a spinster too.

On the 2nd marriage in 1887 she puts
Father ...now it looked like Lowe! and we blew up the signature too and the archivist looked at it as well and it was most certainly looking like Lowe!
a Joseph Lowe
now of course this could be an error...plenty of them in the registers
This Joseph Lowe is a miner too
and not down as deceased

I think on the 1881 I have found her with Hezekah down as Ezekiel and prob his mother and bro in Nottinghamshire
she puts b west bromwich
there is an alice dau b 1880 west brom with them
on later census with Joseph Ruston no Alice so does she die?

So I am trying to find this Hannah Poole with father Joseph Poole pre 1880
he could die anytime betw 1860-1880
there are a few deaths for a Joseph poole
couple of marriages too.

I think Thomas Poole must be her brother.

There is a Hannah Poole on the census in 1871 mother Mary but she is discounted
as she marries a Joseph Shakespeare and is with mother Mary and hubby and kids in 1881
so not that one.

help!!

Poss - Lookup on the witness's marriage may be helpful
1888
POOLE Thomas CORNFIELD Elizabeth Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/009/64

Poss
Extracted
ANN POOLE
Birth: 17 APR 1861
Christening: 05 JUN 1864 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH POOLE
Mother: SARAH

and

RACHEL POOLE
Birth: 29 NOV 1863
Christening: 05 JUN 1864 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH POOLE
Mother: SARAH

Don't see any of them on the census

I think this is the family NL.

1861 Blackheath Family Nailers all born RR
Eber Lowe HD M 23
Rebecca Wife 23
Sarah Jane D 1
Elijah Son 1 month
Joseph Lowe Lodger U 32
Mary Ann Poole Boarder U 26
Thomas Poole Boarder 5
Joseph Poole Boarder 2

1871 Blackheath
Ann Lowe Widow 40
Thomas Lowe Son 14
Joseph Lowe Son 11
Hannah Lowe D 8
Sarah Lowe D 1

linell wrote:
1861 Blackheath Family Nailers all born RR
Eber Lowe HD M 23
Rebecca Wife 23
Sarah Jane D 1
Elijah Son 1 month
Joseph Lowe Lodger U 32
Mary Ann Poole Boarder U 26
Thomas Poole Boarder 5
Joseph Poole Boarder 2

1871 Blackheath
Ann Lowe Widow 40
Thomas Lowe Son 14
Joseph Lowe Son 11
Hannah Lowe D 8
Sarah Lowe D 1

So is Mary Ann Poole the mother of Thomas and Joseph (and Hannah), and did she later marry Joseph Lowe, the other Lodger?

In 1861 the previous entry to Eber Lowe is:
John Poole Head Mar 51 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Lucy Poole Wife Mar 52 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Thomas Poole Son 20 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
William Poole Son 18 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Phoebe Poole Daur 17 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Martha Poole Daur 15 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Richard Poole Son 13 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Joseph Poole Son 11 Scholar Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Maria Poole Daur 6 Scholar Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John Poole Son 2 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

John & Lucy Poole are possibly the right age to be Mary Ann's parents.

And is the Ann Lowe in the 1871 Mary Ann Poole?

thats the way i read it di mary ann had thomas and joseph then married joseph lowe

Hello Diane, yes I believe that Mary Ann Poole aged 26 1861 is Ann Lowe aged 40 in 1871. Think Mary Ann is a Miss Poole, not looked to see if she Married Joseph yet, have my housewife duties to attend to

this is the only marriage i can find ?


Hannah Poole
Father: Richard Poole

Spouse: Joseph Lowe
Father: Thomas Lowe

Marriage: 20 NOV 1865 Biddulph, Stafford, England

linell wrote:Hello Diane, yes I believe that Mary Ann Poole aged 26 1861 is Ann Lowe aged 40 in 1871. Think Mary Ann is a Miss Poole, not looked to see if she Married Joseph yet, have my housewife duties to attend to

yep i have a full english breakfast

Too late Pete I just washed up Get back to what you do best Best Wishes linell.

Where is NL this morning, come on NL, get that bed off your back

Here!!

Ok this looks promising...that one in 1861 looks a match...not sure about that 1871 where she is an Ann the ages out too.

But the 1861 gels
I will look up that marriage see how old Thomas is cos that must be her bro
and see who he puts as father

nice one Linell finding that
and you night shift ones too!

here that 1861 family in 1881 dont now if mary ann was just a lodger or a relation ?

extracted

EBER LOWE
REBECCA THOMPSON OR RUSTON
Marriage: 07 FEB 1859 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


64 Oldbury Rd Blkheath Rowley Regis,

Eber LOWE 43 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Rivet Maker
Rebecca LOWE 45 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Rivet Maker
Sarah Jane LOWE 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Rivet Maker
Simeon LOWE 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Samuel LOWE 13 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Elizabeth LOWE 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Alice LOWE 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Jonah LOWE 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Fanny LOWE 8 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,



but at 63 Oldbury Rd Blkheath Rowley Regis ? and they were next door in 1861 as well (is this mary ann parents ? )

JOHN POOL
LUCY SIVITER
Marriage: 24 FEB 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


John POOLE Head 73 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Rivet Maker
Lucy POOLE Wife 73 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
John POOLE Grandson 20 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Rivet Maker


and


Joseph POOLE Boarder Son (Head) 31 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Rivet Maker
Jemimah POOLE 31 Dudley, Worcester, Nailmaker
Elizabeth POOLE 4 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar
Phoebe POOLE 9 m Rowley, Stafford,

poss death if 1871 is the right census

LOWE Joseph 1867 - Halesowen West Midlands Dudley Register Office HAL/014/138

1841 Blackheath
William Lowe Head 30 Nail Maker
Sophia Lowe Wife 30
Hezekiah Lowe Son 14
Joseph Lowe Son 12
William Lowe Son 10
Decimus Lowe Son 8
Elizabeth Lowe Daur 6
Maryann Lowe Dau r4
Eber Lowe Son 2
David Lowe Son 9 Mo

On previous page: (Is this William's brother?)
James Lowe 25 Nail M. Y
Leah Lowe 25 N
Shadrach Lowe 5 Y
Emma Lowe 2 N

1851 Blackheath
William Lowe Head 43 Nailer b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Sophia Lowe Wife 44 Nailer b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Joseph Lowe Son 22 Coal Miner b. Rowley, Staffordshire
William Lowe Son 20 Nailer b. Rowley, Staffordshire
David Lowe Son 18 Nailer b. Lutley (This is Decimus?)
Elizabeth Lowe Daur 16 Nailer b. Lutley
Maryann Lowe Daur 14 Nailer b. Lutley
Eber Lowe Son 12 Nailer b. Warley Wiggon
David Lowe Son 11 Nailer b. Warley Wiggon
Sophah Lowe Daur 6 b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Sarah Lowe Daur 4 b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Sarah Brooks Lodger 18 Nailer b. Cradley Heath, Staffordshire