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Some more details to add to the archived thread here:
http://genealogyforum.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 31&t=11706

Here are some census entries from that thread:

1841 census transcription details for: Hart's Hill, Kingswinford
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 996 Book/Folio: 11/33 Page: 23

Reg. District: Stourbridge Sub District: Kingswinford
Parish: Kingswinford Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hart's Hill, Kingswinford
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CRIMES, Richard M 25 1816 Staffordshire
CRIMES, Grace F 25 1816 Staffordshire
CRIMES, Richard M 0 (3 months) 1841 Staffordshire
MEESE, Sarah F 20 1821 Staffordshire


1851
Harts Hill, Kingswinford
Richard Grimes 36 - Moulder of Iron
Grace Grimes 36
Richard Grimes 10
Walter Grimes 7
Benjamin Walker 36 - Lodger - Labourer at Iron works - B Derby
Sarah Walker 34
Mary A Walker 7
George Walker 5
Birthsiah Walker 4
Daniel Walker 2

The reason that Sarah is with the Grimes family in 1841, and still with them - now married to her husband Benjamin Walker - in 1851 is that Sarah Meese wqas the sister of Grace Grimes (nee Meese)

They are the daughters of John and Sarah Meese on BCC here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =222844734

A full list of the children of John and Sarah:
Ann b 1803
Mary b 1803
Elizabeth , b 1805
Harriett b 1810
Joseph b 1812
Grace b 1814
Solomon b abt 1814
Sarah b abt 1816
Phoebe b abt 1820
James b abt 1823
George b abt 1825

John Meese and Sarah Plant married 15 Feb 1801 Kingswinford. I believe Sarah Plant is probably the one bapt 23 Sept 1781 Brierley Hill (d of Robert & Ann)...........over to you Dennis!

have we a marriage for Grace

JOHN MEESE
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH PLANT
Marriage: 15 FEB 1801 Kingswinford, Stafford, Extracted

All Extracted so could be added
ANNE MEESE Christening: 14 FEB 1802 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
MARY MEESE Christening: 25 DEC 1803 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
ELIZA MEESE Christening: 22 OCT 1805 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
HARRIETT MEESE Christening: 11 FEB 1810 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
JOS. MEESEChristening: 19 MAY 1812 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
GRACE MEESE Christening: 14 AUG 1814 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
SOLOMON MEESE Christening: 14 AUG 1814 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
PHOEBE MEESE Christening: 05 NOV 1820 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
SARAH MEESE Christening: 29 JUN 1817 Brierley Hill, Stafford,

Richard Crimes/ Grimes and Grace Meese (its on the IGI and FreeBMD - havent yet checked original) married 17 Feb 1840 at Sedgley. Finding details on Richards family is a bit of a nightmare as the surname spelling varies - eg Grimes/ Crimes/ Chrimes - later generations (when they could spell!) seem to have settled on'Chrimes'

Richard Grimes was bapt 20 Feb 1814 at Brierley Hill, s of Samuel Grimes (b 1784) and Sarah Smithyman (b 1788) - her family is easily traced, but have found nothing yet on Samuel.

Many thanks, sp1 and NL, I hadn't got Sarah Plant but the dates would fit!

Hello Dennis
Can't see another possible Sarah Plant other than the daughter of Robert Plant/ Ann Turner?
Steve

on IGI it is 12 sept

SARAH PLANT Christening: 12 SEP 1781 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: ROBERT PLANT
Mother: ANN Extracted

So do we connect her up here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ant-Family

Dennis?

I think that's that's correct - I have her bapt at St Michaels Brierley Hill - when I looked at that page on bcc I noticed 'Sebra' and had my doubts but I have her (Sebra) as 'Seborah' so think this may be yet another form of 'Zipporah' /'Deborah' - or, as I have occasionally seen it 'Zebra'!!

Ok thanks I have connected up
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =289448496

Samuel Crimes and Sarah Smithyman m 11 April 1811 Halesowen (IGI extracted entry)

sp1 wrote:Samuel Crimes and Sarah Smithyman m 11 April 1811 Halesowen (IGI extracted entry)

Samuel Crumes bach otp and Sarah Smithyman sp otp
By Banns both made their Mark

Witnesses were Richard and Margaret Radcliffe (may be of some help.)

Linell.

Thanks altered and added that

is it 11 or 15 april pls