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ARC TBC - John Northall /Martha (Mary?) Smart

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:00 pm
by GENorthall
By chance I found a conversation on this forum concerning the above but the discussion has ended.

I am a direct descendent of both of these people and started to trace my family tree in 2011 and only just found the discussion. I had got back to John and also had a mystery re the relationship with Mary. I noted that John had disappeared by the time the family moved from Madeley (Salop - near Ironbridge) to Oldbury and then Eel Street where later ancestors of mine lived. So it was great to see a discussion that went some way to solving some of the mystery, i.e. had John died or did he leave the family and his wife then commit bigamy as often happened when divorce was impossible or too expensive for the working classes. But it does seem that he seems to have died according to the chain of the discussion.

I wondered if anyone who had been interested in this research and posted during the discussion had delved further back re John and Martha/Mary. especially the fact that she was born in Manchester whereas her mother seems to hail from Madeley. I have a lot of information (handwritten) on the various branches of the Northall clan that my dad (died in 2004) - also George in a long line of Georges - that he obtained via his cousin from a lady who researched before the days of desktop computers, let alone laptops! These various branches were confusing but I was able definitely from census etc records to determine that John is great....many times grandfather of mine. Any information very gratefully received
Thanks - the last in a long line of George Northalls of this part of the Northall clan! :-)

Re: John Northall /Martha (Mary?) Smart

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:46 pm
by Northern Lass

Re: John Northall /Martha (Mary?) Smart

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:27 am
by MarkCDodd
Your missing one of the children on BCC.

Name: Thomas Northall
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Jun 1816
Baptism/Christening Place: MADELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Northall
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03379-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 992317
Reference Number:

Re: John Northall /Martha (Mary?) Smart

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:33 am
by MarkCDodd
Good chance this is John Snr.

Name: John Nurthall
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 Jan 1793
Baptism/Christening Place: MADELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Nurthall
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03379-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 510669
Reference Number:

Re: John Northall /Martha (Mary?) Smart

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:11 am
by Northern Lass
added that bapt as it is down as extracted on old IGI site.

are Susannah Northall and John Northall connected

Susannah
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =782500528

and JOhn
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... di=7877385

have you the marriage for Susannah?
ie looked up at archives....just wondering if she is a widow? and who wits are

Re: John Northall /Martha (Mary?) Smart

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:03 pm
by Armsdenmerrill
Hi if your a decendant of John Northall born Madeley 1793 - 1874, his parents were:- William Northall born 15-09-1768,Abdon Shropshire, and Mary Bennett, born 27-04-1775, Abdon Shrosphire. I have the Northall line going back to 1630 if you need more info. I don't know why William was born at Abdon as all his decendants were born in Madeley. Mary's family came from Abdon, they were married in Abdon church on 28-01-1788. I stem from John's brother Samuel Northall - William and Mary being my 5 x G Grandparents.

Re: John Northall /Martha (Mary?) Smart

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:32 pm
by BC Wench
Is this a Brickwall or have you solved it?
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