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can we find her on 1841 pls

I want to know who Richard is
and how he connects

25 Dec 1829, St Mary, Oldswinford
William Jones of this Parish
Sebra Billingham of this Parish
Wit : Richard Billingham and Ann Billingham
(All Marked X)

is this her?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ham-Family

This is the only one I can find that fits;;;
1851 Census: Salt Wells, Kingswinford
William JONES hd. 48 Nailer
Sebera JONES wife 47
Noah JONES son 20 Nailer
Joseph JONES son Chainmaker.
Mary Ann JONES dau. 15 Nailer
Isiah JONES son 13 Nailer
Silas JONES son 11 Nailer
Sarah JONES dau.6
William JONES son 5
Job JONES son 2
Patience JONES 2
All born Kingswinford.

Looks like the same family.

Wife is Sarah on image.
1841. Mount Pleasant.Kingswinford.
Willm Jones 35. Nailer. n.b.i.c.
Sarah Jones 36.
Noah Jones 10.
Joseph Jones 8.
Mary Jones 6.
Isaiah Jones 5.
Thomas Jones 2.
Silas Jones 1.

1861 Census: Salt Wells Coppies, Kingswinford.
William JONES hd. 59 Horse Nail Maker b.Kingswinford.
Sabra JONES wife 59 b.Dudley.
(Same children).

can we find Richard Billingham and Ann on census
not sure that Sebra on link is this one marrying Wm JOnes
kids names dont gel

1841
BILLINGHAM, Alexr M Nailer 30 1811 Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Sebra F 30 1811 Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Sarah F 11 1830 Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Lot M 8 1833 Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, James M 3 1838 Staffordshire

Swinford Wood, Kingswinford
Staffordshire

Her Bro?
Park Lane 25 Aug 1808
Lot s of James and Sarah BILLINGHAM of Birch Coppice Kingswinford

22 Sep 1828 St Mary Kingswinford
Alexander BILLINGHAM otp
Sebra MANSELL otp
By Banns John A Baxter
Wit; Josiah Barnsley Thos Walker

Thanks

not sure that the Sebra we have on is part of Alexanders family
the kids for Wm Jones and Sebra Billingham just dont have any of James Billingham and wife sarahs kids

can someone pls add Wm JOnes and wife Sebra Billingham as a new family
with census and kids

I can then hyperlink them

I cant see a Richard Billingham that fits for a bapt

is he a bro or a father?

1841
Redhal Hill
Richard Billingham 45 nailer n
Sarah ditto 45 y
John ditto 15 y
Eliza ditto 11 y
Martha ditto 6

Think that is him,
Next house:
James Appleby 25 publican n
Sarah ditto 20 y

I think Richard was this one, recorded twice (off Billingham site)

2-10-1792. Richard Billingham. Baptised Park Lane Cradley. Parents John and Sarah Billingham.
26-3-1793. Mary Billingham Baptised Park Lane Cradley. Parents John and Sarah Billingham.
19-7-1795. John Billingham Baptised Park Lane Cradley. Parents John and Sarah Billingham.

25-12-1796. Burial: John Billingham Brierley Hill. age 0yrs son of John and Sarah Billingham.

31-12-1797. Richard Billingham born 1791 Baptised Brierley Hill Parents John and Sarah Billingham.
31-12-1797. Mary Billingham Baptised Brierley Hill Parents John and Sarah Billingham.

I don't see how it connects to Sebra though.

1851
BILLINGHAM, Alexander Head Married M 44 1807 Nailor
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Sebray Wife Married F 42 1809 Nailor
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Sebray Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Nailor
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Lot Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Chain Maker
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, James Son M 13 1838 Chain Maker
Kingswinford
Staffordshire

Salt Wells, Kingswinford
Worcestershire

rockyfowler wrote:1851
BILLINGHAM, Alexander Head Married M 44 1807 Nailor
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Sebray Wife Married F 42 1809 Nailor
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Sebray Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Nailor
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Lot Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Chain Maker
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, James Son M 13 1838 Chain Maker
Kingswinford

Staffordshire

Salt Wells, Kingswinford
Worcestershire

It's not that family, they connect to me here:- http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ham-Family

Ok so we have a new Sebra BIllingham who marries Wm JOnes.
I don't think she is that one with brother Alex and parents James and Sarah
doesn't feel right to me.

So we can add them as a new lot.

and Richard may just be a rellie?
and looks like that one born 1791 bapt 1797?

I think this might be Richard's parents

25-4-1790.John Billingham married at Brierley Hill to Sarah Timmins.

1841
Swinford Wood
John Billingham 70 nailer y
Sarah ditto 68 y
Mary ditto 20 7

That Alex and Sebra Billingham are a few addresses away, William (35) and Maria (25) Billingham too.

linell wrote:

rockyfowler wrote:1851
BILLINGHAM, Alexander Head Married M 44 1807 Nailor
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Sebray Wife Married F 42 1809 Nailor
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Sebray Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Nailor
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, Lot Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Chain Maker
Kingswinford
Staffordshire
BILLINGHAM, James Son M 13 1838 Chain Maker
Kingswinford

Staffordshire

Salt Wells, Kingswinford
Worcestershire

It's not that family, they connect to me here:- http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ham-Family

I think Rockfowler meant that Sebra Billingham is SISTER to Lot and therefore this one here

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ham-Family

It looks OK for age doesn't it?

Off Billingham site:

2-10-1792. Richard Billingham. Baptised Park Lane Cradley. Parents John and Sarah Billingham.
26-3-1793. Mary Billingham Baptised Park Lane Cradley. Parents John and Sarah Billingham.
19-7-1795. John Billingham Baptised Park Lane Cradley. Parents John and Sarah Billingham.

25-12-1796. Burial: John Billingham Brierley Hill. age 0yrs son of John and Sarah Billingham.

04 Dec 1796 Burial Mary Billingham Brierley Hill aged 4

So looks as though first Mary and John both died, then they had Richard baptised along with new Mary in 1797...

IGI Parents John and Sarah:

RICHD. BILLINGHAM - Christening: 31 DEC 1797 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
MARY BILLINGHAM -Christening: 31 DEC 1797 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
JOHN BILLINGHAM -Christening: 17 NOV 1799 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
DIANA BILLINGHAM - Christening: 07 NOV 1802 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England died 14 Feb 1804
SELINAH BILLINGHAM -Christening: 11 MAY 1806 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
HANH. BILLINGHAM -Christening: 17 APR 1808 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
BENJN. BILLINGHAM - Christening: 12 JUL 1810 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
JOS. BILLINGHAM - Christening: 12 APR 1812 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
SARAH BILLINGHAM - Christening: 24 JUL 1814 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England


Benjamin and Sarah are on here, with parents John and Sarah:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ham-Family

This might be Joseph:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ham-Family

Richard in 1851 says he is born Mushroom Green if that is any help. Who knows which Billingham familes were from there?

ADDED
And this could be John Billingham bpt 1799
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ham-Family
note that witness to his marriage in 1822 was Thomas Jones...1851 census has William and Sebra Jones living next door to Thomas Jones (55) and his wife and family.

So if Thomas Jones witnessed John Billingham's marriage in 1822, then Richard Billingham (John's brother I think) may have been a friend of William Jones rather than a close relative of Sebra Billingham.