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Can we find Richard and his first marriage on earlier census pls
thread open for Elizabeth Brown

23rd Sept 1888 St Michael Brierley Hill
Richard Cartwright 42 Widower Miner Brettell Lane Father Luke Cartwright Miner
Elizabeth Brown 21 Spinster Park St Father Cornelius Brown Labourer
x Richard Cartwright x Elizabeth Brown
Witnessed Mark Underhill and x Phoebe Ann Southall

1871 at 56 Cottage St., Kingswinford
Richard Cartwright Head 24 Miner b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Betsey Cartwright Wife 28 b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Isabella Cartwright Daur 7 Scholar b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Julietta Cartwright Daur 2 b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire

1881 at 11 Cottage St., Kingswinford
Richard Cartwright Head 36 Coal Miner b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Cartwright Wife 36 b. Worcs., Oldswinford
Isabella Franks Daur 17 Brick Yard Labourer b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Julietta Cartwright Daur 12 Scholar b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Daniel Cartwright Son 9 Scholar b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Henry Cartwright Son 4 b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Mary Franks Mother-in-law Widow 62 b. Worcs., Oldswinford

dianel wrote:1871 at 56 Cottage St., Kingswinford
Richard Cartwright Head 24 Miner b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Betsey Cartwright Wife 28 b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Isabella Cartwright Daur 7 Scholar b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Julietta Cartwright Daur 2 b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire

1881 at 11 Cottage St., Kingswinford
Richard Cartwright Head 36 Coal Miner b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Cartwright Wife 36 b. Worcs., Oldswinford
Isabella Franks Daur 17 Brick Yard Labourer b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Julietta Cartwright Daur 12 Scholar b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Daniel Cartwright Son 9 Scholar b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Henry Cartwright Son 4 b. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
Mary Franks Mother-in-law Widow 62 b. Worcs., Oldswinford

it aint this one Di
we have that one here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=54206079

we have the marriage for Richard to franks

can we find the one with father Luke pls on census

this is Elizabeth Brown
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =675920139

i look the other day for a richard with father luke gave up in the end

Northern Lass wrote:Can we find Richard and his first marriage on earlier census pls
thread open for Elizabeth Brown

need day pls kims if you looking in.


??? 1888 Sept 23rd St Michael Brierley Hill
Richard Cartwright 42 Widower Miner Brettell Lane Father Luke Cartwright Miner
Elizabeth Brown 21 Spinster Park St Father Cornelius Brown Labourer
x Richard Cartwright x Elizabeth Brown
Witnessed Mark Underhill and x Phoebe Ann Southall

Kims have you got the actual certificate for this you can send me pls wondering if the Luke bit is a mistake

it aint this one Di
we have that one here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=54206079

I reckon Elizabeth Brown is his 2nd wife, ages match marriage cert..
1891
23 Cottage Street, Kingswinford
Richard Cartwright 45 - Clay labourer
Elizabeth Cartwright 24
Harry Cartwright 14
Richard Cartwright 1
all b Brierley

And thanks for the 'Old hill cross' location..

Northern Lass wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:Can we find Richard and his first marriage on earlier census pls
thread open for Elizabeth Brown

need day pls kims if you looking in.


??? 1888 Sept 23rd St Michael Brierley Hill
Richard Cartwright 42 Widower Miner Brettell Lane Father Luke Cartwright Miner
Elizabeth Brown 21 Spinster Park St Father Cornelius Brown Labourer
x Richard Cartwright x Elizabeth Brown
Witnessed Mark Underhill and x Phoebe Ann Southall

Kims have you got the actual certificate for this you can send me pls wondering if the Luke bit is a mistake

on familysearch
Groom's Name: Richard Cartwright
Groom's Birth Date: 1846
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 42
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Brown
Bride's Birth Date: 1867
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 21
Marriage Date: 23 Sep 1888
Marriage Place: Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
Groom's Father's Name: Luke Cartwright
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Cornelius Brown
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01126-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1470585
Reference Number: It 1 p 49

linell wrote:Is this Luke here 1861:-

Halesowen Road Lye Worcs


LUCK CARTWRIGHT Head Married 35 yrs Miner
HANNAH CARTWRIGHT Wife " 29 yrs
ANN CARTWRIGHT Daughter 8 yrs
CHARLES CARTWRIGHT Son 6 yrs
SARAH CARTWRIGHT Daughter 3 yrs
WILLIAM CARTWRIGHT Son 12 mth

All born Old Swinford

LInell.

if that luke where richard and he would off bee about 16 so hannah would of been 13 when had him unless its a second marriage for luke ?

going to split this off for Luke
I think that marriage is the one for Richard Cartwright to Elizabeth Brown
waiting on Kim to come back with birth for Richard Cartwright the son b 1889 to see if mother is Brown.

I will add with a note

FarSide wrote:

it aint this one Di
we have that one here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=54206079

I reckon Elizabeth Brown is his 2nd wife, ages match marriage cert..
1891
23 Cottage Street, Kingswinford
Richard Cartwright 45 - Clay labourer
Elizabeth Cartwright 24
Harry Cartwright 14
Richard Cartwright 1
all b Brierley

And thanks for the 'Old hill cross' location..

I agree so we need that birth certif for Richard aged 1 ...............