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I have a Henry Hillman, born out of wedlock to Caroline Hillman (FreeBMD has it in the September quarter in Steyning) and baptised 16 Oct 1842 at St James, Ashurst, Sussex.
His mother married John Dumbril in 1843 (FreeBMD has it in the June quarter in Steyning).
In the 1851 census his mother is married to John Dumbrel and Henry appears as Henry Dumbrel but by 1861 he's gone missing.

Can anyone find him for me please?

Found this one ....

1861: 27 Meeting House Lane, The Palace, Brighton, Sussex
Philip Dumbrill 22 Head Marr Carpenter Lindfield, Sussex
Sarah A Dumbrill 20 Wife Weacomb, Somerset
Jesse Dumbrill 1 Son Brighton, Sussex
Henry Dumbrill 19 Brother Carpenter Lindfield
Robert Helleric 28 Lodger Marr London

coincidence?...

at 26d Meeting House Lane -
Elizabeth Hillman 35 Wife Marr Laundress
Mary A Hillman 11 Dau
Samson Hillman 10 Son
Jane Hillman 8 Dau

mallosa wrote:Found this one ....

1861: 27 Meeting House Lane, The Palace, Brighton, Sussex
Philip Dumbrill 22 Head Marr Carpenter Lindfield, Sussex
Sarah A Dumbrill 20 Wife Weacomb, Somerset
Jesse Dumbrill 1 Son Brighton, Sussex
Henry Dumbrill 19 Brother Carpenter Lindfield
Robert Helleric 28 Lodger Marr London

That's those bothersome Lindfield Dumbrill's, they keep popping up, getting in the way.

coincidence?...

at 26d Meeting House Lane -
Elizabeth Hillman 35 Wife Marr Laundress
Mary A Hillman 11 Dau
Samson Hillman 10 Son
Jane Hillman 8 Dau

Hillman is Sussex' equivalent of Hingley; it's rarer to have a street without one than with one. Interesting that one though, a quick check on the census suggests her husband, a fisherman, made a point of being away on census day. But what's really annoying is that they all called their kids by the same names!!!!! Except Samson of course, but I can hardly find anything about him so he's not really much use as a search target.

1871 census transcription details for: Liverpool Street, St Pancras
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 217 Folio: 42 Page: 78

Reg. District: Pancras Sub District: Gray's Inn Lane
Parish: St Pancras Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Liverpool Street, St Pancras
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
DUMBRILL, Henry Head M 29 1842 Sussex
FRENCH, Sophia Aunt F 65 1806 Sussex
WALKER, Harriet Servant F 18 1853 Middlesex

Trying to find a better image so I can read his occupation....

Address: 46 Liverpool Street Parish: St Pancras Registration District: St Pancras

Surname Forename Age Relation Occupation Birth Place
Dumbrill Henry 29 Head Professor Of Gastronomy Eastbourn, Sussex
French Sophia 65 Aunt House Keeper Eastbourn, Sussex
Walker Harriet 18 Serv General Serv Pancras, Middlesex
Wilson Elizabeth 35 Lodger Point Lace Meder Lambeth, Surrey
Hand George 28 Lodger Traveller Cigars Grantham, Lincolnshire
Muirhead Mariam 23 Lodger Wife Of Seaman Pancras, Middlesex

Wouldn't be surprised if he spent some time in France if he is a Prof. Of Gastronomy.

1881 census transcription details for: 6, Bullen St, Battersea
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 644 Folio: 11 Page: 16

Reg. District: Wandsworth Sub District: Battersea
Parish: Battersea Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 6, Bullen St, Battersea
County: London, Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DUMBRILL, Henry Head Married M 39 1842 Professor Of Gastronomy Eastbourne Sussex
DUMBRILL, Constance Wife Married F 25 1856 Oxted Surrey
DUMBRILL, Henry N Son Single M 4 1877 Oxted Surrey
DUMBRILL, Edith R C Daughter Single F 3 1878 Paddington Middlesex
DUMBRILL, Ethel Daughter Single F 1 1880 Battersea Surrey
DUMBRILL, Leonard S Son Single M 0 1881 Battersea Surrey
OUTTRIM, Edith A Visitor Single F 19 1862 None Oxted Surrey

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Print Close
Name: DUMBRILL, Henry
Registration district: Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1877
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 471

MarriageFinder: Henry Dumbrill married one of the following people:

PRATLEY, Martha Ellen

OUTTRIM, Constance

WARREN, Charles

1891 census transcription details for: 37, Great Windmill Street, St James Westminster, Westminster
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 87 Folio: 45 Page: 7

Reg. District: Westminster Sub District: St James Westminster
Parish: St James Westminster Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District: St Lukes City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 37, Great Windmill Street, St James Westminster, Westminster
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DUMBRILL, Henry Head Married M 51 1840 Licensed Victualler Eastbourne Sussex
DUMBRILL, Constance Wife Married F 33 1858 Oxted Surrey
DUMBRILL, Henry Son Single M 14 1877 Scholar Oxted Surrey
DUMBRILL, Constance Daughter Single F 13 1878 Scholar Oxted Surrey
DUMBRILL, Ethel Daughter Single F 11 1880 Scholar London
DUMBRILL, Leonard Son Single M 10 1881 Scholar London
FRENCH, Marian Servant Single F 20 1871 Barmaid London
HOPPER, Annie Servant Single F 21 1870 Servant Greenwich
HUM, Arthur Single M 22 1869 Potman Windsor

Looks like he lost some money.....

1901 census transcription details for: 5, Endsleigh Road, Betchworth, S Merstham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 624 Folio: 152 Page: 13

Reg. District: Reigate Sub District: Betchworth
Parish: Betchworth Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, Endsleigh Road, Betchworth, S Merstham
County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DUMBRILL, Henry Head Married M 59 1842 Fishmonger & Greengrocer Eastbourne Sussex
DUMBRILL, Constance Wife Married F 43 1858 Exted Surrey
DUMBRILL, Leonard S Son Single M 20 1881 Fishmongers Assistant Battersea

Cant find them in 1911. Can;t find their deaths. Can't see them on any passenger list....

MarkCDodd wrote:Address: 46 Liverpool Street Parish: St Pancras Registration District: St Pancras

Surname Forename Age Relation Occupation Birth Place
Dumbrill Henry 29 Head Professor Of Gastronomy Eastbourn, Sussex
French Sophia 65 Aunt House Keeper Eastbourn, Sussex
Walker Harriet 18 Serv General Serv Pancras, Middlesex
Wilson Elizabeth 35 Lodger Point Lace Meder Lambeth, Surrey
Hand George 28 Lodger Traveller Cigars Grantham, Lincolnshire
Muirhead Mariam 23 Lodger Wife Of Seaman Pancras, Middlesex

Not him I'm afraid, I'd be surprised if my Henry could read and write let alone become a professor of gastronomy. And there's no Aunt Sophia either. Dumbrill's are almost as numbersome as Hillman's. Trust me to come from such common stock.