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Hi All!
I'm new to the forum, so hello everyone, I'm hoping you can use your expertise to help with my research into my husband's maternal line, the Harveys. I've done a reasonable amount of research on my own and was thrilled to find the BCC website which seemed to be showing the very same family of Harveys.
Grangers14 has encouraged me to post a new topic and says that it's ok to go into detail, so here goes.....

Edna Harvey Born Rowley Village, Rowley Regis 11.4.1923 - 21.1.1992 X Allen Fletcher
parents
William Harvey Coal Miner Born Powke Lane, Rowley Regis 24.12.1894 - 15.2.1957 X Sarah Chatwin
parents
John Harvey Coal Miner Born Tipton, Staffs. 3.4.1869 - ? X Sarah White
parents
Thomas Harvey Coal Miner Born Oldbury Worcs. c. 1832 - ? X Mary Ann Newman
parents
John Harvey Coal Miner Born Oldbury Worcs c. 1811 - ? X Sarah Steventon

The above details and dates are as far as I'd got on my own before finding the BCC site.
On the BCC it appears that there are two entries for John Harvey baptised in 1809, numbered 135 and 136. This is where I got confused as the notes added by Jan on JH 136 seem to refer to "my" JH in 1841, but the other JH 135 has "my" JH's correct place of baptism. Is it possible that the two JH's are one and the same and that the Worcs/Shropshire difference in the place of baptism is due to county boundary changes?
Both the BCC and the IGI agree on Samuel and Roseanna Harvey being John Harvey's parents, but then seem to disagree on Samuel and Roseanna's parents. The IGI has William and Johanah Harvey while the BCC has Job and Esther Harvey.
Please can anyone help me with this?
Best Regards,
Barb46

Births Jun 1923
Harvey Edna Chatwin Dudley 6b 1600


Marriages Sep 1916
Chatwin Sarah Harvey Stourbridge 6c 7
Harvey William Chatwin Stourbridge 6c 7

do you have the above marriage cert ?

22 Jul 1916 St Paul Blackheath
William HARVEY 21 B Boiler maker 8 Gorsty Hill Blackheath Father John Harvey Collier
Sarah CHATWIN 19 S High Street Rowley Father William Chatwin Labourer
After Banns Both signed
Wit; John Harvey Lucy Cole

cheers RF

1901; 5 Powkes Lane, Rowley Regis

John Harvey 31 coal miner (hewer) tipton
Sarah Harvey 27
Mary A Harvey 9
John Harvey 8
William Harvey 6
Thomas Harvey 3
Joseph Harvey 1
Ann Daniell 15 sis in law machine operator
rest born RR

here the marrige barb on about

HARVEY John WHITE Sarah 1890 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 19/2/34


but who ann daniel ?

HI and welcome

right so we have here on Bcc

Job and Esther Harvey as parents of Samuel Harvey
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=80807000

notice Samuel calls dau Esther harvey .............so that looks ok for samuel being son of Job and Esther.

then we have samuel and Rosannah having John Harvey 1809
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =939344745

so what we want to know is is he the same as this John Harvey
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... vey-Family

no idea we need to have some evidence to connect.

can anyone give the marriage info pls from transcripts for Samuel and Rosannah marriage

who are wits?

SAMUEL HARVEY Christening: 20 JUN 1779 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOB HARVEY
Mother: ESTHER Form submitted

This needs confirming too so can someone with transcripts oblige pls

but this is on the IGI site

I cant see a bapt for a Samuel on IGI site for William Harvey and wife Johanna that you mention
there is one for a Samuel Harvey 1899 St Thomas Dudley father William and wife sarah

can you show us which bapt you mean pls can you copy and paste it.

rockyfowler wrote:22 Jul 1916 St Paul Blackheath
William HARVEY 21 B Boiler maker 8 Gorsty Hill Blackheath Father John Harvey Collier
Sarah CHATWIN 19 S High Street Rowley Father William Chatwin Labourer
After Banns Both signed
Wit; John Harvey Lucy Cole

Can someone post the 1911 pls for William Harvey son and John Harvey father

need census going back for John Harvey too

peterd wrote:here the marrige barb on about

HARVEY John WHITE Sarah 1890 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 19/2/34


but who ann daniel ?

Do you have this marriage Barb? it is Old Hill Holy Trinity not Cradley Heath needs amending on Bmsgh site.

can you post the full info pls

i cannot see them on 1911 ?

St John the Baptist Halesowen
1799 "“ June
Samuel son of Job and Esther Harvey ye 20th


1798 St John the Baptist Halesowen
27th May
Samuel Harvey otp B and
Rosanna Stephens otp S
Banns
Witnesses:- Edward Hunt and Richard Fiddian

1841 Langley Green, Oldbury, Worcs
Samuel Harvey, 65, Coal Miner
Rosehannah Harvey, 65
James Harvey, 20, Coal Miner
/James Harvey, 14, Coal miner
All Born in County

1911
HARVEY, John Head Married M 42 1869 Coal Miner Hewer Tipton Staffs
HARVEY, Sarah Wife Married F 38 1873 Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, Mary Daughter Single F 19 1892 Screwer Iron Nut And Bolt Rowley Regis Staffs
HARVEY, John Son Single M 18 1893 Labourer Iron Nut And Bolt Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, William Son Single M 16 1895 Labourer Iron Nut And Bolt Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, Thomas Son M 13 1898 Painter Gas Pipes Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, Joseph Son M 11 1900 School Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, Rebecca Daughter F 9 1902 Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, George Son M 7 1904 Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, Phoebe Daughter F 5 1906 Halesowen Worc
HARVEY, Mable Daughter F 7 1904 Halesowen Worc
10 children born 9 still alive
90 New John St Black Heath Birmingham
Worcestershire

rockyfowler wrote:1911
HARVEY, John Head Married M 42 1869 Coal Miner Hewer Tipton Staffs
HARVEY, Sarah Wife Married F 38 1873 Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, Mary Daughter Single F 19 1892 Screwer Iron Nut And Bolt Rowley Regis Staffs
HARVEY, John Son Single M 18 1893 Labourer Iron Nut And Bolt Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, William Son Single M 16 1895 Labourer Iron Nut And Bolt Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, Thomas Son M 13 1898 Painter Gas Pipes Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, Joseph Son M 11 1900 School Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, Rebecca Daughter F 9 1902 Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, George Son M 7 1904 Black Heath Staffs
HARVEY, Phoebe Daughter F 5 1906 Halesowen Worc
HARVEY, Mable Daughter F 7 1904 Halesowen Worc
10 children born 9 still alive
90 New John St Black Heath Birmingham
Worcestershire

does it say how long married RF

1891. 34, Hackett St Rowley Regis
Thomas Harvey, head, 58, Coal Miner, Oldbury
Mary, wife, 50, Birmingham
John, son, 22, Coal Miner, Tipton
Sarah, daur in law, 17, Rowley Regis