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I've been looking again at the Thomas Massey who married Mehala Plant on 25 Dec 1860 at St Thomas's, Dudley. Here they are in the 1911 census:

MASSEY, Thomas Head Married M 76 1835 Nil - Old Age Pensioner Halesowen Worcestershire
MASSEY, Mehala Wife Married 50 years F 67 1844 Halesowen Worcestershire
MASSEY, Albert Son Single M 26 1885 Iron Moulder Halesowen Worcestershire
MASSEY, Amy Daughter Single F 29 1882 Warehouseman Halesowen Worcestershire
Address: Court 7 No 2 White Road Sparkbrook Birmingham

I imagine that Amy is Mehala Massey. We've recently been looking at Masseys from Sedgley and I wonder whether Thomas might not also be one of them, despite his saying Halesowen in the censuses. If he were the son of James and Sarah Massey, he would have grown up in Furnace Hill, Halesowen as in the 1841 census, where there are 7 children: Hannah, Sarah, Joseph, John, Thomas, Mary and James c. 1826-1841.

Whatever his origins, this is an update on Thomas and Mehala Massey's descendants:

Descendants of Thomas Massey

Generation No. 1

1. THOMAS2 MASSEY was born Abt. 1835 in Dudley, Worcestershire, and died Aft. 1911 in Birmingham, Warwickshire. He married MEHALA PLANT 25 Dec 1860 in St Thomas's church, Dudley, Worcestershire, daughter of THOMAS PLANT and ANN HARRIS. She was born 12 Jan 1844 in Furnace Hill, Halesowen, Worcestershire, and died Abt. Mar 1921 in Birmingham, Warwickshire.

Children of THOMAS MASSEY and MEHALA PLANT are:
2. i. LUCY3 MASSEY, b. 1864, Halesowen, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
ii. WILLIE MASSEY, b. 1867, Halesowen, Worcestershire.
3. iii. ARTHUR THOMAS MASSEY, b. 1869, Halesowen, Worcestershire.
4. iv. ANN MARIA MASSEY, b. 1871, Halesowen, Worcestershire; d. 11 Nov 1920, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
v. KATE MASSEY, b. 1874, Halesowen, Worcestershire.
vi. THOMAS MASSEY, b. 1876, Halesowen, Worcestershire.
5. vii. ELIZABETH LUCY MASSEY, b. 01 Oct 1877, Short Cross, Halesowen, Worcestershire; d. 27 Dec 1963, 384 Tessall Lane, Northfield, Birmingham.
6. viii. BEATRICE MASSEY, b. Abt. 1880, Halesowen, Worcestershire; d. 27 Dec 1963, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
ix. MEHALA MASSEY, b. Abt. Jun 1882, Halesowen, Worcestershire.
x. ALBERT MASSEY, b. Abt. Dec 1884, Halesowen, Worcestershire; d. Feb 1957, Petersfield, Hampshire.


Generation No. 2

2. LUCY3 MASSEY (THOMAS2, JAMES1) was born 1864 in Halesowen, Worcestershire, and died Aft. 1911. She married THOMAS CECIL PRESSLAND Jul 1887 in Dudley, Worcestershire. He was born Jul 1861 in Taunton, Somerset.

Notes for LUCY MASSEY:
1911 census

PRESSLAND, Lucy Head Married F 46 1865 Milliner And Drapers Halesowen
PRESSLAND, Janette Daughter Single F 21 1890 Factory Hand Birmingham
PRESSLAND, Herbert Gerald Son Single M 17 1894 Clerk Bewdley
PRESSLAND, Jessica Daughter Single F 15 1896 Factory Hand Bewdley
PRESSLAND, Agnes Lucy Daughter F 14 1897 Kidderminster
PRESSLAND, Leonard Son M 11 1900 School Boy Kidderminster
PRESSLAND, Ernest Cecil Son M 8 1903 School Boy Kidderminster
Address: 10 Swan Street Kidderminster

Children of LUCY MASSEY and THOMAS PRESSLAND are:
i. JANETTE4 PRESSLAND, b. Abt. 1890, Halesowen, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
ii. GEORGE E PRESSLAND, b. Abt. 1892, Birmingham, Warwickshire; d. Aft. 1901.
iii. HERBERT GERALD PRESSLAND, b. Abt. 1894, Bewdley, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
iv. JESSICA PRESSLAND, b. Abt. 1896, Bewdley, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
v. AGNES LUCY PRESSLAND, b. Abt. 1897, Kidderminster, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
vi. LEONARD PRESSLAND, b. Abt. 1900, Kidderminster, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
vii. ERNEST CECIL PRESSLAND, b. Abt. 1903, Kidderminster, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.


3. ARTHUR THOMAS3 MASSEY (THOMAS2, JAMES1) was born 1869 in Halesowen, Worcestershire. He married ANN ELIZABETH CONNOLLY 01 Dec 1899 in Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire. She was born 1875 in Bridgnorth, Shropshire.

Notes for ARTHUR THOMAS MASSEY:
1911 census
MASSEY, Arthur Thomas Head Married M 42 1869 Banks Man Labourer Hale Hoing Worshire
MASSEY, Annie Elizabeth Wife Married 12 years F 36 1875 Bridgnorth Shropshire
CONNOLLY, Francis James Son M 14 1897 Stone Breaking Bridgnorth Shropshire
Address: Hill Side Abdon Craven Arms Shropshire

Child of ARTHUR MASSEY and ANN CONNOLLY is:
i. FREDERICK T4 MASSEY, b. Abt. Apr 1900, Birmingham, Warwickshire; d. Bef. 1911.


4. ANN MARIA3 MASSEY (THOMAS2, JAMES1) was born 1871 in Halesowen, Worcestershire, and died 11 Nov 1920 in Birmingham, Warwickshire. She married WILLIAM PIGGOTT OTTY Jul 1895 in Warwickshire, son of ROBERT OTTY and MARY UNKNOWN. He was born Jun 1864 in Manchester, Lancashire, and died 23 Jul 1939 in Warwickshire.

Child of ANN MASSEY and WILLIAM OTTY is:
i. ANNIE4 OTTY, b. 26 Sep 1904, Birmingham, Warwickshire; d. Dec 1990, Stroud, Gloucestershire; m. HERBERT R HOLTON, Abt. Jun 1934, Birmingham, Warwickshire.


5. ELIZABETH LUCY3 MASSEY (THOMAS2, JAMES1) was born 01 Oct 1877 in Short Cross, Halesowen, Worcestershire, and died 27 Dec 1963 in 384 Tessall Lane, Northfield, Birmingham. She married PHILIP SUTTON SHUTTLEWORTH 12 Dec 1897 in Parish church, Kidderminster, Worcestershire, son of JOSEPH SHUTTLEWORTH and ELIZA THOMAS. He was born 07 Nov 1879 in Meriden, Warwickshire, and died 24 Nov 1944 in Birmingham, Warwickshire.

Children of ELIZABETH MASSEY and PHILIP SHUTTLEWORTH are:
7. i. PHILIP JOHN4 SHUTTLEWORTH, b. 13 Aug 1903, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
ii. JOSEPH SHUTTLEWORTH, b. 14 May 1905, Birmingham, Warwickshire; d. 01 Oct 1985, Truro, Cornwall.
iii. GEORGE SHUTTLEWORTH, b. 1907, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
iv. MAISIE SHUTTLEWORTH, b. 01 Dec 1908, Birmingham, Warwickshire; d. 17 May 1988, Warwickshire.


6. BEATRICE3 MASSEY (THOMAS2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1880 in Halesowen, Worcestershire, and died 27 Dec 1963 in Birmingham, Warwickshire. She married (1) JOSEPH POUNCEY Abt. Sep 1902 in Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire, son of MATTHEW POUNCEY and ELIZABETH UNKNOWN. He was born Abt. Mar 1877 in Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire. He was born Abt. Mar 1877 in Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire.

Child of BEATRICE MASSEY and JOSEPH POUNCEY is:
i. LEN4 POUNCEY, b. 1912, Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire.


Children of BEATRICE MASSEY and JOSEPH POUNCEY are:
ii. JOSEPH OLIVER4 POUNCEY, b. Abt. Jun 1903, Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
iii. SIDNEY HERBERT POUNCEY, b. 16 Jul 1906, Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire; d. Dec 1987, North Walsham, Norfolk; m. BEATRICE VIOLET COLLINS, Abt. Dec 1927, Birmingham South, Warwickshire; b. Abt. Sep 1906, Droitwich, Worcestershire.
iv. OLIVE B POUNCEY, b. Abt. Sep 1910, Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
v. LEONARD POUNCEY, b. 1912, Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
vi. MILDRED D POUNCEY, b. Abt 1915.

I have put this as a sticky I want to look at that marriage of Thomas see if we can connect up

but dont have time to go thru all this so will leave it here and maybe we can
have a go when we get a min.

Yes, that's fine NL!

Ok marriage checked out have connected up
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =259409228

can anyone help go thru this lot I don't have time

need census to verify kids for Thomas too

I've added some of the census for Thomas and Mehala, need to add more of their children - too late tonight

confused about Elizabeth Lucy Massey born 1877

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... sey-Family

Not sure what you are confused on Mallosa? There is no birth reg I can see for Elizabeth Lucy, could just be a christening record that added Lucy??
I can find no Amy, I think Amy in 1911 is really Mahala.

mallosa wrote:I've added some of the census for Thomas and Mehala, need to add more of their children - too late tonight

confused about Elizabeth Lucy Massey born 1877

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... sey-Family

Births Dec 1877
MASSEY Elizabeth Stourbridge 6c 167

that looks like her

and I have changed Amy to Mehala

Births Jun 1882
Massey Mehala Stourbridge 6c 152

can someone check does 1911 say Amy or Mehala

Mally check on free bmd for any likely births
Births Sep 1864
MASSEY Lucy Stourbridge 6c 160

1911 definately says AMY

13 children born 9 still alive

thanks cid adding the kids mally from census now

Births Sep 1873 (>99%)
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Massey Katey Stourbridge 6c 167

Here is a bit more on the Presslands, one of whom emigrated to the USA. Not sure what happened to T C Pressland that he should be in a workhouse in Liverpool in 1911 when his wife and family are in a draper's shop in Kidderminster:

Descendants of Lucy Massey

Generation No. 1

1. LUCY3 MASSEY (THOMAS2, JAMES1) was born 1864 in Halesowen, Worcestershire, and died Aft. 1911. She married THOMAS CECIL PRESSLAND Jul 1887 in Dudley, Worcestershire. He was born Jul 1861 in Taunton, Somerset, and died Aft. 1911.

Notes for THOMAS CECIL PRESSLAND:
Formerly a taxidermist. In 1911 an inmate of Kirkdale workhouse, Liverpool.

Children of LUCY MASSEY and THOMAS PRESSLAND are:
i. JANETTE4 PRESSLAND, b. Abt. Jul 1899, Halesowen, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
2. ii. GEORGE EDWARD PRESSLAND, b. Abt. Jul 1891, Birmingham, Warwickshire; d. Aft. 1930, USA?.
iii. HERBERT GERALD PRESSLAND, b. Abt. Oct 1893, Bewdley, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
iv. JESSICA PRESSLAND, b. Abt. Oct 1895, Bewdley, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
v. AGNES LUCY PRESSLAND, b. Abt. Apr 1897, Kidderminster, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
vi. LEONARD PRESSLAND, b. 01 Jul 1899, Kidderminster, Worcestershire; d. 22 May 1924, Kidderminster, Worcestershire; m. WINIFRED MAUD HANLEY, Abt. Sep 1922, Kidderminster, Worcestershire; b. Abt. Jun 1901, Upton on Severn, Worcestershire.
vii. ERNEST CECIL PRESSLAND, b. Abt. Apr 1902, Kidderminster, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.


Generation No. 2

2. GEORGE EDWARD4 PRESSLAND (LUCY3 MASSEY, THOMAS2, JAMES1) was born Abt. Jul 1891 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, and died Aft. 1930 in USA?. He married LOUISA J ROOKE Abt. Mar 1914 in Kidderminster, Worcestershire, daughter of HUBERT ROOKE and CATHERINE UNKNOWN. She was born 1891 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, and died Aft. 1930 in USA.

Notes for GEORGE EDWARD PRESSLAND:
In 1930 US census living in Royal Oak Township, Oakland, Michigan USA with wife and three children, mechanic working for a motor car company.

Children of GEORGE PRESSLAND and LOUISA ROOKE are:
i. MAUD GWENDOLINE5 PRESSLAND, b. Abt. Oct 1915, Birmingham, Warwickshire; d. Aft. 1930.
ii. KENNETH J PRESSLAND, b. Abt. 1922, Canada; d. Aft. 1930.
iii. DOROTHY N PRESSLAND, b. Abt. 1924, Michigan, USA; d. Aft. 1930.

Dennis I am going to flag to archive this unless you or another wish to work through and check and add
what we can

OK, many thanks, NL!