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Can we find him on 1841 pls
or a marriage

his mother should be Mary Bagley but cant find a bap
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =574958717

also there is another son Thomas Bowater cant find bapt
any census or marriage

then we can add them

1841. Blackheath, Rowley Regis. Staffs.
Roger Bagley 50. Nail m. n.b.i.c.
Sarah Bagley 45. n. b.i.c.
Caroline Bagley 15.
Maria Bagley 9.

I can't see a marriage.

1851. Blackheath, Rowley Regis. Staffs.
Ragger Bagley 62. Nailer. Birmingham.
Sarah Bagley 57. Halesowen.
Regger Bagley 26.
Ann Bagley 24. Halesowen.
Rogers Bagley 2.
Samuel Bagley 2 Mo.
Merriah Bagley 18.
Sarah Bagley 8 Mo. Granddaughter

Others born Rowley Regis.

Poss.
Roger Bagley.
Gender: Male.
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Mar 1790.
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Philip's, Birmingham, Warwick.
Father's Name: Roger Bagley.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03548-8.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 813717.
Reference Number: yrs 1789-1792.

so no mother mary on bapt

so we cant add him to Bcc as we can't prove she had a son Roger.
which is a shame

Jan, this Roger Bagley here (connects to Maggie) http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =656499296

Was the son of Mary Bagley 1768 born shortly before her Marriage to George Bowater, have these notes here written by a descendant:-


Further information was sent to me by the great great great grandaughter of Thomas Bagley, who from family research was Mary's brother. Ref. R.G. 10/2993 (sent by a descendant)

According to the family tree Mary had 6 siblings, Susannah born 1771, George born 1773, Thomas born 1777, Samuel born 1780, Sarah born 1782 and Jeremiah born 1786.

Received from Thomas's G/G/G/grandaughter who lives in Halesowen, not far from where Mary lived.



More information on Mary and her son's family in England.

1871 Census for Causeway Blackheath Rowley Rigis England


Born: Staffordshire Rowley Rigis:

Samuel Harris Householder marr. 45 years Nail maker
Maria Harris Wife marr. 42 years Nail maker
Sarah Harris Daughter - 22 years Nail maker
Enoch Harris Son - 6 years -
Ruth Daughter - 3 years -

Born ....................Burmingham:

Roger Bagley Father-in-law Wid. 83 years Coal miner
Sarah Harris grandaughter - 2 months -

Born: ...................


Ann Bagley Wife marr. 43 years Nail maker

Born: Staffordshire Rowley Rigis

Henry Bagley Son - 17 years Coal miner
Sarah Bagley Daughter - 14 years Nail maker

Born: Wostershire ................

Mary A Lees Neice - 18 years Nail maker

Ref. R.G. 10/2993 Public Records (sent by a descendant)

Also found these notes:-


Mary died on the 22 April 1849 widow aged 80 of natural causes. On her death certificate the informant was a Daniel Bowater from Long Plains, he signed with an X.[18]
The Probate for the will of Mary Smith, dated 1849, named her executors as Thomas Ritchie and David Gibson.[19]
A sum of two hundred pounds was to be divided between members of her family in England. They were:

"Susannah Gould wife of William Gould near Rowley, Staffordshire, Nailer.
George Bagley of Dudley in Worcestershire. Fruitman
Thomas Bagley near Rowley,Ragan, (Regis) Staffordshire. Nailer.
Jeremiah Bagley near Rowley, Ragan, (Regis) Staffordshire. Nailer.
Sarah Parish near Halesowen Shropshire wife of Joseph Parish. Farmer"
Another sum of two hundred pounds was to be divided between the following, as Tennants in Common.

To Roger Bagley of Hales Parish Sheopshire. Nailer. Blackheath near Rowley my eldest son, and Samuel Bagley, son of George Bagley of West Bramish (Bromwich) near Staffordshire, Licensed Victualler.[20]

not sure on this if you think we can connect this
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =676828663

to mary and an unknown
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =574958717

So he is mentioned in a will?
as her son need to see that really

but we can if you think it is the correct Roger connect with a note

Going to archive this for the moment