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Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen ARC TBC

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:58 pm
by Harald Wolf
My first post here:

I can see this family has been discussed before, but the topics are closed. I'm looking for collaborators to fill in the blanks, and verify info. I also have an album of photos that I know is relevant, but it has no one identified.

Daniel Sidaway
b 28 Nov 1861 - Old Hill to Joseph (1837-1911) and Emma Darby (1839-1911)
d 1937 Halesowen
m 10 Apr 1887 - Halesowen
Mary Ann Harris(s)
b ~1864 - Halesowen to Benjamin (1839-) and Mary Anne Williams (1838- <1881)
d aft 1911 - Halesowen

Children:
1. Edgar W.
b 1887 - Old Hill
d aft 1901

2. Arthur
b Feb 1889 - Old Hill
emigrated to Canada bef 1908
m Mabel Williams 2 Jun 1917 (Oshawa, Ontario)

3. Wilfred
b 16 Aug 1891 - Old Hill
emigrated to Canada abt 1908
d 1 Jan 1963 - Montreal, Quebec
m Grace Elizabeth Macdonald 27 Jun 1917 (Montreal)
(3 children; incl my father-in-law; dau still living in USA)
I have complete descendency.
Visited Halesowen in 1913 (with Arthur), 1920 and 1929; I have photos from 2 of them.

4. Joseph
b abt 1894 - Old Hill
d bef 1911 - Halesowen

5. Seth
b 1896 - Old Hill
d 1961 - Halesowen
m Lavinia White? unconfirmed

6. Victor William
b 1898 - Old Hill
emigrated to Canada 1923
returned home 1930 permanently?

7. Edith May
b abt 1901 - Furnace Hill, Halesowen
emigrated to Canada 1926
attended brother's funeral in Montreal 1963; nothing known after that.

8. Amy
b 1903 - Furnace Hill, Halesowen
nothing else known

9. Agnes Ena
b 1906 - Furnace Hill, Halesowen
Record of trip to Canada in 1924, indicating it was to stay, however, the following year she returned to England and there are no other records of trips to Canada.
Nothing else known.

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:52 am
by SRD
Hi Harald Wolf
You might do better posting this in the Black Country Genealogy Discussion section. You might also PM the mods of that section (Northern Lass is your best bet, she's usually around most) if you'ld like topics re-opened.

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:45 am
by gardener
Hi and welcome to the site!
I'm sure someone will zoom in with a lot of help soon.
Meanwhile, I wonder if this is perhaps Agnes?

Deaths Sep 1925
Sidaway Agnes E 19 Stourbridge 6c 5


If you are not familiar with the English system, this is a recorded death in the July/Aug/Sep quarter of 1925. Aged 19 so that would fit and Stourbridge district is where her birth was registered.

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:48 am
by gardener
And perhaps Amy?

Deaths Jun 1919
Sidaway Amy 15 Stourbridge 6c 3


These are off a free site http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:56 am
by gardener
The marriage for Seth Looks to be right


1915
SIDAWAY Seth WHITE Lavinia Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/032/84

that is off this site http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/ it has the advantage over the freeBMD site in that it is compiled locally and says where couples married. In this case it was at a register office.

For "recent" dates like these you can use the freeBMD site to try and find children of a couple because the mother's maiden name is recorded too. These look likely

Births Jun 1918
Sidaway Edith M White Stourbridge 6c 9

Births Dec 1921
Sidaway Vera J White Stourbridge 6c 14

Births Mar 1933
Sidaway Leonard White Stourbridge 6c 3

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:08 pm
by linell
Harald Wolf wrote:My first post here:

I can see this family has been discussed before, but the topics are closed. I'm looking for collaborators to fill in the blanks, and verify info. I also have an album of photos that I know is relevant, but it has no one identified.

Daniel Sidaway
b 28 Nov 1861 - Old Hill to Joseph (1837-1911) and Emma Darby (1839-1911)
d 1937 Halesowen
m 10 Apr 1887 - Halesowen
Mary Ann Harris(s)
b ~1864 - Halesowen to Benjamin (1839-) and Mary Anne Williams (1838- <1881)
d aft 1911 - Halesowen

Children:
1. Edgar W.
b 1887 - Old Hill
d aft 1901

2. Arthur
b Feb 1889 - Old Hill
emigrated to Canada bef 1908
m Mabel Williams 2 Jun 1917 (Oshawa, Ontario)

3. Wilfred
b 16 Aug 1891 - Old Hill
emigrated to Canada abt 1908
d 1 Jan 1963 - Montreal, Quebec
m Grace Elizabeth Macdonald 27 Jun 1917 (Montreal)
(3 children; incl my father-in-law; dau still living in USA)
I have complete descendency.
Visited Halesowen in 1913 (with Arthur), 1920 and 1929; I have photos from 2 of them.

4. Joseph
b abt 1894 - Old Hill
d bef 1911 - Halesowen

5. Seth
b 1896 - Old Hill
d 1961 - Halesowen
m Lavinia White? unconfirmed

6. Victor William
b 1898 - Old Hill
emigrated to Canada 1923
returned home 1930 permanently?

7. Edith May
b abt 1901 - Furnace Hill, Halesowen
emigrated to Canada 1926
attended brother's funeral in Montreal 1963; nothing known after that.

8. Amy
b 1903 - Furnace Hill, Halesowen
nothing else known

9. Agnes Ena
b 1906 - Furnace Hill, Halesowen
Record of trip to Canada in 1924, indicating it was to stay, however, the following year she returned to England and there are no other records of trips to Canada.
Nothing else known.


Daniel and his family are all verified on here, via Census and Marriage Look Ups:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... way-Family

HTH Linell.

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:12 pm
by peterd
carrying on

1881; High Street, Ridgacre, Worcester,

Joseph SIDAWAY 44 Old Hill, Stafford, Brewer
Emma SIDAWAY 41 Brierly Hill, Stafford,
Daniel SIDAWAY 19 Old Hill, Stafford, Shoemaker
Rachel SIDAWAY 9 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
Lucy SIDAWAY 6 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
Amy E. SIDAWAY 4 Old Hill, Stafford, and Scholar
Zilpha E. SIDAWAY 1 Old Hill, Stafford,

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:15 pm
by peterd
poss mar

SIDAWAY * Joseph DARBEY Emma 1858 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/002/285
SIDAWAY * Joseph DARBY Emma 1858 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office
203/002/285

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:20 pm
by peterd
1871; Reddall hill, Rowley Regis,

Joseph Sidaway 33 Publican, beer seller
Emma Sidaway 31
Daniel Sidaway 9
Alice J Sidaway 7
Mary A Sidaway 5
Agnes L Sidaway 1

all born RR

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:22 pm
by peterd
1861; Reddall hill, Rowley Regis,

Joseph Sidaway 23 Publican, Rowley Regis
Emma Sidaway 21 Dudley
James Sidaway 1 Rowley Regis

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:24 pm
by peterd
1851 poss one of two listed

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:57 am
by Harald Wolf
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions!
I am specifically looking for people with knowledge about this family beyond what is available on the internet. I've been researching this family for 20 years, so pretty well have all the census data, and such. I have details of Daniel's siblings directly from the family bible.
Where I need help is with identification of photos taken in the 1920s in Halesowen, and stories - beyond the lists and data.

Thanks again.

Re: Sidaway - Old Hill / Halesowen

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:16 am
by Northern Lass
Okedoke let me move this now to the Brickwall section and we can see if anyone
out there can hopefully come along and contact you :wink: