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Just added this to BCC...

Looked up by Rockyfowler - thankyou!

Marriage 17 Sep 1877 Rowley Regis Parish Church
Thomas Perry 48 Bach Labourer Village Thomas Perry Labourer
Ellen Lowe 50 Spinster Village Stephen Lowe Labourer
after Banns
Wit: Josiah Rollason/Phoebe Rollason
(all made their mark) x

a bit confusing to say the least

Here's the link - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... owe-Family

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... owe-Family

and

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... owe-Family

seem to be quoting the same 1841 census but the fathers are different - Samuel v Stephen


Does that add to the confusion?

It certainly does Gardener , think I'll let Di & Jan sort this one!

we need some bapts for Mary Lowe and for Ellen lOwe
are there any pls

and what r'ship do we think Josiah is to Ellen?

we have him on Bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

Ok we need the 1841 pls for Josiah Ruston and Lucy Rollason

and is there a marriage

any bapts for those Kids that seem to use names Ruston and Rollason
what are they bapt as

1851 Rowley Village (Surname transcribed as "˜Law"™)
Josiah Ruston Head Widow 45 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John Ruston Son U 18 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Stephen Ruston Son U 16 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Josiah Ruston Son U 14 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Phebe Ruston Daur 8 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ellen Low Inmate Un 24 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John Low Inmate 2 b. Worcs., Dudley
Hannah Low Inmate1 Mo b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

1861 Rowley Village
Josiah Ruston Head 56 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Josiah Ruston Son 24 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ann Ruston Daur 20 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Phebe Ruston Daur 18 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ellen Lowe Lodger 33 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John Lowe Son 12 Nailer b. Worcs., Dudley
Hannah Lowe Daur 10 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Lowe Daur 6 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

Josiah and Phoebe Rollason are related to Thomas Perry I think. Pheobe being his sister

What I don't understand is who is Josiah Law witness to Josiah Rollason and Phoebe Perry marriage in 1876? The Ellen Law could be Ellen Lowe pre-marriage I suppose.

gardener wrote:Josiah and Phoebe Rollason are related to Thomas Perry I think. Pheobe being his sister

What I don't understand is who is Josiah Law witness to Josiah Rollason and Phoebe Perry marriage in 1876? The Ellen Law could be Ellen Lowe pre-marriage I suppose.

I dont understand any of it

-Is Ellen partner to Josiah Ruston?
-Are those Rollasons Josiah Rustons?...they seem to put Josiah Rollason as father on marriages is this supposed to be Josiah
Ruston?
-Do Mary and Ellen have different fathers one Samuel one Solomon?



6 March 1876 St Thomas Dudley
Josiah Rollason 39 bach labourer Dudley Josiah Rollason dead nailer
Phoebe Roberts 35 widow Dudley Thomas Perry Dead labourer
Banns
X both
Wit- X Josiah Law / X Ellen Law

It is impossible to say isn't it?

It looks to me as though Josiah Ruston gave them his surname in the census but they never stopped being Rollason. The boys (John, Stephen and Josiah) give their father as Josiah Rollason which could be Josiah Ruston's first name plus their mother's surname. But the girls (Ann and Phebe) give no father.

I don't think that Lucy Rollason and Josiah Ruston married.
His brother Obadiah married
1855
RUSTON Obadiah LAW Amelia A Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/2/285

Here is the 1841
Village
Josiah Ruston 35
Obadiah ditto 30
Lucy Rolinson 30
John ditto 8
Stephen ditto 6
Josiah ditto 4
Ann ditto 2
Mary Law 20
Levi ditto 4
Hannah Lowe 15

all born in county except Mary Law

I'm inclined to think that Mary Law is actually Amelia

1851
Village
Thomas Rose 29
Sarah Rose 29
Hannah ditto 10
Sarah ditto 1
Eli Stokes 34
Obadiah Ruston 40
----
Amelia Law u 33
Levi ditto 14
Elijah ditto 7
Joseph ditto 4
Mary Ann ditto 1

then after the 1855 marriage the kids float in and out of the census as Ruston or Law

NB Obadiah is on BCC twice
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ton-Family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ton-Family

nice one Gardener
I am going to amend Josiah as father to Unknown for lads and girls with a note

so Mary is Amelia that works

no marriage for Lucy ...ok

can we connect up Josiah Ruston to Ellen or is he not her partner

Thanks RF for look up


Marriage info added by Jan and looked up at archives by RF 7-2-12<br>
19 Nov 1855 St Giles Rowley Regis<br>
Obadiah RUSTON 48 B Nailer The Village Father Josiah Ruston Nailer<br>
Amelia Ann LAW 38 S The Village Father Samuel Law Nailer<br>
After Banns <br>The X Of Both<br>
Wit; Thomas Rose X Sarah Rose X<br><br>

So Amelias father is Samuel Law /Lowe?

1851
Village
Thomas Rose 29
Sarah Rose 29
Hannah ditto 10
Sarah ditto 1
Eli Stokes 34
Obadiah Ruston 40

ROSE Thomas STOKES Sarah 1841 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/001/259

On Bcc here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =140475769