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Research is going on into the history of Cradley Heath Male Voice Choir for this year"™s centenary celebrations. One of its members, Edward Bayliss, was killed in action in April 1918 in France. The home address given at the time of death was 40 Newtown Street, Cradley Heath, but no age appears in official records. However, from the 1911 Census we know that there were two Edwards, father (a miner) and son (house painter). Although it seems more likely that it was Edward junior who died at the Battle of Hazebrouck, it is not out of the question that it was the elder Edward as the age of conscription had earlier risen to 51.

If it was Edward senior who was killed in action he would have been 53 years old, and if it was his son then he would have been 27 years old. It would be very much appreciated if anyone has access to local records and could help might clarify the matter.

is this him

CWCG
BAYLISS, EDWARD Private 41029 14/04/1918 Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) United Kingdom Panel 5. PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL


Ancestry
Name: Edward Bayliss
Regiment or Corps: Scottish Rifles
Regimental Number: 41029

Name: Edward Bayliss
Birth Place: Cradley, Staffs
Residence: Cradley Heath, Staffs
Death Date: 14 Apr 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Oldhill, Staffs
Rank: Private
Regiment: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Battalion: 1st Battalion
Number: 41029
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly S/24135, S. Staff. Regt.


Where is the death certif produced ?
is it over in the UK after the event if killed overseas?

He is listed in my Roll of honour Book for Cradley Heath Ward

Bayliss E 41029 Pte CSR 14 April 1918
40 Newtown Street

Have you looked at the Electoral regis for that address after 1918
to track who is living there ie is Edward snr there?

staval wrote:Research is going on into the history of Cradley Heath Male Voice Choir for this year"™s centenary celebrations. One of its members, Edward Bayliss, was killed in action in April 1918 in France. The home address given at the time of death was 40 Newtown Street, Cradley Heath, but no age appears in official records. However, from the 1911 Census we know that there were two Edwards, father (a miner) and son (house painter). Although it seems more likely that it was Edward junior who died at the Battle of Hazebrouck, it is not out of the question that it was the elder Edward as the age of conscription had earlier risen to 51.

If it was Edward senior who was killed in action he would have been 53 years old, and if it was his son then he would have been 27 years old. It would be very much appreciated if anyone has access to local records and could help might clarify the matter.

1901 47 New Town Lane
Edward Bayliss and wife Mary
with kids and bro William so it is this lot

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=73052383

more info just posted on Cradley rootsweb
is this you Staval?

if so what info do you have re his military info the address for the one I listed matches the 40 Newtown address.

"Dear All

Research is going on into the history of Cradley Heath Male Voice Choir for this year"™s centenary celebrations with a concert on 21st April at Brierley Hill Civic Hall. One of its early days"™ members, Edward Bayliss, was killed in action in April 1918 in France.

The home address given at the time of death was 40 Newtown Street, Cradley Heath, but no age appears in official records. However, from the 1911 Census we know that there were two Edwards, father (a miner) and son (house painter).

Although it seems more likely that it was Edward junior who died at the Battle of Hazebrouck, it is not out of the question that it was the elder Edward as the age of conscription had earlier risen to 51.

Information has it is that "˜Edward"™ was Cradley born, lived in Cradley Heath, had enlisted at Old Hill and had initially been with the South Staffordshire Regiment, R/N 24135. He received the British War Medal and the Victory Medal which means he could have been in France from 1916.

If it was Edward senior who was killed in action he would have been 53 years old, and if it was his son then he would have been 27 years old. It would be very much appreciated if anyone has access to local records and could help clarify the matter"

is there any info on the war medals re his age pls anyone

so was he in the South Staff regisment then the other one
does the regiment number change?

1911
BAYLISS, Edward Head Married M 46 1865 Coal Miner Deputy Overman Below-Ground Staff Cradley Heath
BAYLISS, Mary Wife Married
21 years F 50 1861 Worcestershire Cradley
BAYLISS, Mary Daughter Single F 19 1892 Staff Cradley Heath
BAYLISS, Edward Son Single M 20 1891 Painter House Staff Cradley Heath
BAYLISS, Frank Son M 14 1897 In Chain Warehouse Staff Cradley Heath
5 Children born alive 1 died

47 Newtown Lane Cradley Heath
Staffordshire

Death
BAYLISS, Edward
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
1947
Jan-Feb-Mar
81
Volume No: 9B
Page No: 408

1914-1919
Name: Edward BAYLISS
Rank: PRIVATE
Initials: E
Birthplace: Cradley, Staffs
Residence: Cradley Heath, Staffs
Enlisted: Oldhill, Staffs
Regiment, Corps etc.: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Battalion etc.: 1st Battalion.
4.8.14 Glasgow: 15.8.14 landed at Havre, L. of C. Troops. 22.8.14 joined 19th Bde. forming at Valenciennes. 12.10.14 19th Bde. attached 6th Div. 31.5.15 Bde. attached to 27th Div. 19.8.15 Bde. to 2nd Div. 25.11.15 19th Bde. to 33rd Div. 11.11.18 19th Bde. 33rd Div. France; Sart-Bara, near Berlaimont.
Number: 41029
Date died: 14 April 1918
How died: Killed in action
Theatre of war: France & Flanders

http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead ... ,%20EDWARD

The Older Edward Came from Rotherham
Name: Edward Bayliss
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Age at enlistment: 51
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 124657
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps

rockyfowler wrote:The Older Edward Came from Rotherham
Name: Edward Bayliss
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Age at enlistment: 51
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 124657
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps

Thanks RF where is this from?

Staval I think your post has been answered on the rootsweb too
so if you are done with this one I will flag to archive it unless you need any more info on it.
I will try and add some of this to Bcc too

poss on ancestry

Name: Edward Bayliss
Birth Date: abt 1866
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 408

Connected up Mary Cox to Edward Bayliss snr

marriage info
Marriage info added by Jan and looked up at archives by RF 6-2-12<br>
9th June 1889 St John Halesowen<br>
Edward Baylis 23 bach miner Peckingham St Borough Thomas Bayliss miner<br>
Mary Cox 26 spinster Chainmaker Peckingham St Borough Stephen Cox Labourer<br>
banns<br>
Edward signed / X Mary Cox <br>
Wit- X Lazarus Cox X Dorcas Allen<br><br>

Will move this now to archived if it is all done