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Hi,

I am trying to find out information about my great, great, great grandparents.

Israel Share birth abt 1814 in Sedgley, Staffordshire & death 1875 in Staffordshire, Worcestershire. His mother Ann born about 1871 in Staffordshire.

Married to:

Mary ? born abt 1815 in Sedgley, Staffordshire, England & death 1885 2nd quarter in Staffordshire, Worcestershire

Married 1837 in Staffordshire

1841 Census - Tailors Bank, Sedgley, Staffordshire - Ann Share 60 widow Israel Share 25 labourer Mary share 28 Ann Share 4 Robert Share 2

1851 & 1861 Census "“ living in Sedgley

Their children:

Ann Share 1838 "“ 1908 -
Robert Share 1839 "“
Joseph Share 1841 "“
Rosanna or Rose Hannah 1844 "“ 1884
John Share 1845 "“
Mary Share 1847 "“

Can anyone help with information about Israel & Mary and their daughter Ann Share 1838 "“ 1908 my great, great grandmother?

Her information that I have is:

Timeline (as known):

1838 "“ Ann Share born Sedgley, Staffordshire

1841 census - 3 living at Taylors Bank, Sedgley, Staffordshire with her parents in her widowed paternal grandmothers home Ann Share 60. Father Israel is 25 and a labourer. Mother Mary is 25.

1851 census "“ 13 living at 36 Gornal Wood, Sedgley, Staffordshire with her family Israel 37 Labourer, Mary 36 domestic, Ann 13 a Nailor, brother Robert 12 a Miner and brothers Joseph 9 & John 6 both at school and sister Mary 3

1857 11 May "“ aged 18 "“ marriage to James Massey at St Edmunds Dudley 11 May 1857 James Massey Full Age Bach. Miner of Dudley F. James Massey (Miner). Ann Share 20 Spin. of Dudley F. Israel Share (Labourer) Witnesses Joseph Smith & Esther Guest. Name: Ann Share Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1857 Registration district: Dudley Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume Number: 6c Page Number: 28

1861 census "“ 23 years old living at North Street, Lower Gornal, Sedgley, Staffordshire
1871 census "“ 33 years old living at Elbow Street, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire

1881 census "“ 43 years old living at 3 Dudley Street, Old Hill, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
1891 census "“ 53 years old living at 92 Garretts Lane, Old Hill, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
1901 census "“ 53 years old living at 91 Garretts Lane, Old Hill, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire

1908 4 Mar "“ 69 years died Staffordshire / Worcestershire

Husband James Massey. Name: James Massey Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1838 Registration district: Dudley Inferred County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 18 Page: 227

1891 census he is an Underground Manager in Coalpit (mine).

1896 - South Staffordshire"™s Mining Industry. He is the under manager of Himley, including Nos. 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13 and 16 Pits, Sedgley owned by The Earl of Dudley. 764 staff manufacturing & steaming coal, & ironstone

He died in 1915

Their children:
Sarah Massey 1857 "“
Mary Massey 1859 "“ 1957
John Massey 1861 "“
Samuel Massey 1865 "“ 1954
Robert Massey 1867 "“ 1941
Honor Massey 1868 "“ 1948
James Massey 1870 "“
Joseph Massey 1870 "“ 1946
Enoch Massey 1871 "“ 1930
Thomas Massey 1873 "“ 1957
Anne Elizabeth called Annie Massey 1875 "“
Albert Massey 1880 "“ 1966
Florence Massey 1888 "“

Many thanks,

Caroline

Not sure if you've seen this Caroline, or if Jan put it on there for you

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family

Linell.

Hi Caroline do you have that marriage info for James and Ann

moving this to Bc section

1857
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MASSEY James SHARE Ann Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/003/50

The marriage is in the middle of the jumble best RF


1857 11 May "“ aged 18 "“ marriage to James Massey at St Edmunds Dudley 11 May 1857 James Massey Full Age Bach. Miner of Dudley F. James Massey (Miner). Ann Share 20 Spin. of Dudley F. Israel Share (Labourer) Witnesses Joseph Smith & Esther Guest. Name: Ann Share Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1857 Registration district: Dudley Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume Number: 6c Page Number: 28

rockyfowler wrote:The marriage is in the middle of the jumble best RF


1857 11 May "“ aged 18 "“ marriage to James Massey at St Edmunds Dudley 11 May 1857 James Massey Full Age Bach. Miner of Dudley F. James Massey (Miner). Ann Share 20 Spin. of Dudley F. Israel Share (Labourer) Witnesses Joseph Smith & Esther Guest. Name: Ann Share Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1857 Registration district: Dudley Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume Number: 6c Page Number: 28

Thanks Rf

Where does it say that Israel and Mary are born pls on census

1841
SHARE, Ann F 60 1781 Staffordshire
SHARE, Isral M 25 1816 Staffordshire
SHARE, Mary F 28 1813 Staffordshire
SHARE, Ann F 4 1837 Staffordshire
SHARE, Robert M 2 1839 Staffordshire


Taylor's Bank, Sedgley, Wolverhampton
Staffordshire

1851
SHARE, Isreal Head Married M 37 1814 Labourer
Sedgley
Staffordshire
SHARE, Mary Wife Married F 36 1815 Domestic
Sedgley
Staffordshire
SHARE, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Nailer
Sedgley
Staffordshire
SHARE, Robert Son M 12 1839 Miner
Sedgley
Staffordshire
SHARE, Joseph Son M 9 1842 School
Sedgley
Staffordshire
SHARE, John Son M 6 1845 School
Sedgley
Staffordshire
SHARE, Mary Daughter F 3 1848
Sedgley
Staffordshire


Gornall Wood, Sedgley, Wolverhampton
Staffordshir

ISRAEL SHARE
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY GREENAWAY
Marriage: 09 NOV 1835 Sedgley, Stafford, Extracted marriage

You could look this up to see if wits hold clues to his sibs

cant see a bapt for him

not sure if this fits anywhere

ROBERT SHARE Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 28 APR 1799 Sedgley, Stafford, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOSEPH SHARE Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth

Northern Lass wrote:ISRAEL SHARE
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY GREENAWAY
Marriage: 09 NOV 1835 Sedgley, Stafford, Extracted marriage

You could look this up to see if wits hold clues to his sibs

cant see a bapt for him

are you near Dudley archives Caroline?

if so this can be looked up there.

not sure what else we can do on this now.

Did you need any more on the Shares.

Hi,

No I live in France so Dudley is a bit far I will try to get them the next time I am over.

Thanks for the information received so far everybody they are much appreciated.

Best wishes,

Caroline

Yes Caroline, all Non Conformists are and were christened, Baptists are not baptised until they are adults. Do not rely on ages on the Census, they do fluctuate, you have to realise that time was not an issue then like it is today, some people didn't even know which year they were born in, they were more interested in where the next plate of food was coming from than how old they were. There lives were very chaotic and nothing like ours. Linell.

JOHN SHARE Birth: 02 JAN 1845
Christening: 27 JAN 1845 Gornall, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: ISRAEL SHARE
Mother: MARY Extracted


ANN SHARE Christening: 16 MAR 1837 Gornall, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: ISRAEL SHARE
Mother: MARY
Messages:
Extracted


THOMAS SHARE Christening: 26 JAN 1836 Gornall, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: ISRAEL SHARE
Mother: MARY Extracted



ROBERT SHARE Birth:
Christening: 10 FEB 1839 Gornall, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: ISRAEL SHARE
Mother: MARY Extracted

Flagging to archive this one if this is done for the moment.

Caroline we do have a look up list but it is only if and when anyone is going and has time
you can add it there but it may or may not get done

this is the thread
viewtopic.php?f=85&t=11417

and you add in this format

Your name ie user name
and then
names - day month church
as the person searching needs to go straight to the info

so you could add that marriage if you wished

ISRAEL SHARE
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY GREENAWAY
Marriage: 09 NOV 1835 Sedgley, Stafford, Extracted marriage


Flagging to archive