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Found this really interesting ...

http://www.blackcountrybugle.co.uk/News ... 012012.htm

this looks like the ladies Grt Grandfather...

1901: 6 crt, 2 hse, Ward Street, Birmingham
Albert S Ryder 21 Head Glass Blower Stourbridge, Worc
Lydia Ryder 20 Wife Brierley Hill, Staffs

Can't find a marriage for them

Could Lydia be Lily

Marriages Dec 1899.
Ford Henry Walter. Birmingham. 6d. 239.
Plant Lily. Birmingham. 6d. 239.
Rodney Ellen. Birmingham. 6d. 239.
Ryder Albert Squire. Birmingham. 6d. 239.

Hiya Jimmy

That's the only one I could find, it's possible isn't it?

Jimmy wrote:Could Lydia be Lily

Marriages Dec 1899.
Ford Henry Walter. Birmingham. 6d. 239.
Plant Lily. Birmingham. 6d. 239.
Rodney Ellen. Birmingham. 6d. 239.
Ryder Albert Squire. Birmingham. 6d. 239.

Just read the article again and she does mention the Plant family

This could be them....haven't got full access

1911 Census of Canada
Name: Albert Ryder
Spouse: Lydia Ryder
Residence: 1911 - Lincoln, Ontario

1911. Province: Ontario, District: Lincoln. Place of Habitation: 62 Westchester.
Albert Ryder 31. Polisher. Immigration Year: 1907.
Lydia Ryder 34.
Susan Ryder 10.
Violet Ryder 7.
Charles Roberts 27. Border.

Jimmy wrote:Could Lydia be Lily

Marriages Dec 1899.
Ford Henry Walter. Birmingham. 6d. 239.
Plant Lily. Birmingham. 6d. 239.
Rodney Ellen. Birmingham. 6d. 239.
Ryder Albert Squire. Birmingham. 6d. 239.

Correction on Ancestry
Albert Samie Ryder [Albert Squire Ryder]

1891: 55 Delph Lane, Kingswinford, Staffs
Charles Ryder 67 Head Ironworks Lab Stourbridge
Sarah Ryder 64 Wife Stourbridge
Thomas Onions 22 Grd Son Marr Coal & Clay Miner Brettle Lane
Sarah Ann Onions 29 Grd Son's wife Marr Delph Lane
Albert Samie Ryder 11 Grd Son Delph Lane
Fanny Francek Ryder 9 Grd Dau Delph Lane
Ada Harriet Ryder 5 Grd Dau Delph Lane

...no Albert Squire Ryder here

1881: 55 Delph Lane
Charles Rider 57
Sarah Rider 54
Albert Harry Rider 20
Alice Ann Rider 19

here he is next door with his parents...

54 Delph Lane, Kingswinford
William Rider 31 Head Lab at Glass & Bottle Works Stourbridge
Sarah Rider Wife 30 Commonside, Staffs
Sarah Ann Rider 8 Dau Brierley Hill
Arthur Charles Rider 5 Son Brierley Hill
William Alexandra Rider 3 Son Brierley Hill
Albert Squire Rider 1 Son Brierley Hill


Living at no 48 are William Ryder (53) and wife Sarah (49) with their children (Williams parents?)

54 Delph Lane, Kingswinford
William Rider 31 Head Lab at Glass & Bottle Works Stourbridge
Sarah Rider Wife 30 Commonside, Staffs
Sarah Ann Rider 8 Dau Brierley Hill
Arthur Charles Rider 5 Son Brierley Hill
William Alexandra Rider 3 Son Brierley Hill
Albert Squire Rider 1 Son Brierley Hill

added to BCC but can't find a marriage for William and Sarah - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... der-Family


in 1891 he was married to Susannah ?

maybe on 1881 Census his wife should say Susannah and not Sarah

Marriage 1872
RIDER William BUNN Susannah Kingswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office213/004/453

I'll request a look up for that

1911: No 3 Crt 6 George Street West, All Saints Birmingham
William Ryder 64 Head Marr Unable to Work (late Toolmaker)
Susan Ryder 63 Wife Marr
Herbert Ryder 17 Son S Toolmaker
Ada Ryder 25 Dau S
Lilly Ryder 15 Dau S
(Married 43 yrs - 11 Children born alive - 2 have died)

I'll have a look for Lydia's family on a separate thread tomorrow

Can be archived pending loads of look ups