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Hi,

I've found my ancestor James Powell & Caroline on the 1861 census:

Name:
James Powel, abt 1833 Ludlow, Shropshire (Blacksmith)

Spouse's Name:
Caroline Powel, abt 1839, Tipton, Staffordshire

Civil parish:
Sedgley

Ecclesiastical parish:
Coseley

County:
Staffordshire

James married Caroline Green 1857 at St Martins Church, Tipton, Staffordshire

I found James on the 1841 census living with his family in Ludlow but I've searched and searched the 1851 census but just can't find him anywhere. The other problem is after finding him and his wife on the 1861 census I've been unable to locate either of them on anyother census returns.

I'm wondering would someone kindly double check for me in case i'm missing something.

It's quite possible James died after 1861 but I can't understand why I can't find him on the 1851 census

Kind regards
Adrian

James married Caroline Green 1857 at St Martins Church, Tipton, Staffordshire

Do you have this marriage cert Adrian? If so who is his father?

Hi,

Many thanks for your reply.

I don't have his marriage certificate (cost) but I very confident (famous last words ) that his father was also James. He had a sister Ellen born 1829 Ludlow who married William Green 1855 at the same church in Tipton. William Green according to the 1861 census was also a Blacksmith and seemed from previous census returns to have been married at least once to Rosannah. One of his children was Caroline born abt 1839, Tipton which would fit well with the marriage to James Powell.

What do you think?

Kind regards
Adrian

1841
POWELL, James M 35 Malster 1806
POWELL, Susannah F 30 1811 Shropshire
POWELL, Ellen F 13 1828 Shropshire
POWELL, James M 9 1832 Shropshire
POWELL, Thomas M 6 1835 Shropshire
POWELL, Benjamin M 4 1837 Shropshire
POWELL, Hannah F 2 1839 Shropshire
POWELL, Fanny F 0 (7 months) 1841 Shropshire

Raven Lane, St Lawrence, Ludlow
Shropshire
1851
POWELL, James Head Married M 48 1803 Malster
Montgomery
Wales
POWELL, Susannah Wife F 41 1810
Clayhill
Shropshire
POWELL, Thomas Son M 15 1836 Pipe Maker
Ludlow
Shropshire
POWELL, Benjamen Son M 13 1838
Ludlow
Shropshire
POWELL, Hannah Daughter F 12 1839
Ludlow
Shropshire
POWELL, Margerett Daughter F 5 1846
Ludlow
Shropshire
POWELL, George Son M 2 1849
Tipton
Staffordshire



Horsley Road, Tipton
Staffordshire

Hi,

I've found my ancestor James Powell & Caroline on the 1861 census:

I take it these are them Adrian....

1861: 96 Queen Street, Sedgley, Staffs
James Powel 28 Head Marr Blacksmith Ludlow, Shropshire
Caroline Powel 22 Wife Marr Tipton, Staffs

You could do with this being looked up by some kind soul...

Marriage 1857
POWELL James GREEN Caroline Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) Sandwell Register Office 39/8/326

because there is also this one...

Marriages Sep 1858
Emery Ethelreda Fanny Birmingham 6d 71
Powell James Birmingham 6d 71
Ryles Frederick Birmingham 6d 71
Seal Caroline Birmingham 6d 71

mallosa wrote:

because there is also this one...

Marriages Sep 1858
Emery Ethelreda Fanny Birmingham 6d 71
Powell James Birmingham 6d 71
Ryles Frederick Birmingham 6d 71
Seal Caroline Birmingham 6d 71

IGI have the Frederick Ryles marriage to Caroline Seal so that isn't a problem.

I can´t see James in the 1851, or either of them in 1871. Sorry.