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ARC TBC....Joseph Robinson & Ann New marriage in 1863 Dudley

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:04 am
by expat66
Need some help finding more info. on this couple.

I was looking for a different Ann New on BCC here...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... New-Family
...but her father was Joseph... this one , below, has father John

1863 marriage...
2 Mar 1863 St. James Church, Dudley.
Joseph Robinson, 20, miner, resident Dudley, father William Robinson, miner.
Ann New, 23, resident Dudley, father John New , labourer
Both signed own names.
Witnesses 'mark of' and I can't make out what the names are!

Having trouble finding them on census and I don't know whether they connect with anyone on BCC ?

Can anyone find them anywhere?
Thankyou
Expat :-)

Re: Joseph Robinson & Ann New marriage in 1863 Dudley

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:18 am
by peterd
dont know if this is anything ?


1881; 38 Mill St, Willenhall, Stafford

Ann ROBINSON Head M 43 Penn, Stafford, Domestic Servt Unempld
Agnes ROBINSON Daur 17 Willenhall, Stafford, Filer Unempld
Mary ROBINSON Daur 12 Willenhall, Stafford, Scholar


extracted

ANNE NEW
Birth: 04 MAY 1839
Christening: 02 JUN 1839 Penn, Stafford,

Father: JOHN NEW
Mother: ELIZABETH


poss sister ?


HANNAH <NEW>
Christening: 30 JUN 1844 Penn, Stafford,

Father: JOHN NEW
Mother: ELIZABETH

Re: Joseph Robinson & Ann New marriage in 1863 Dudley

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:47 pm
by expat66
Thanks Peterd,

Birthplace Penn could be right .. there is this family, surname New...

1841 Upper Penn, Staffordshire, England
John New, 30, agricultural labourer,
Elizabeth New,30,
Emma New,5,
Sarah New,4,
Ann New,2,
Jane New,infant ... all born in County

1851 Penn Village, Upper Penn, Staffordshire, England
John New,44, agric.lab,
Elizabeth,39,wife,
Sarah,13,
Ann,11,
Jane,10,
Elizabeth,8,
Hannah,6,
James,4,
Caroline,3,
William,1... all born Penn

1861 Penn Village, Upper Penn, Staffordshire, England
John New,55,agric.lab,
Elizabeth,50,wife,
James,14, agric.lab,
Caroline,12, scholar,
William,10,scholar,
Hannah,6... all born Penn

I don't know where Ann New is in 1861 ?

Expat :-)

Re: Joseph Robinson & Ann New marriage in 1863 Dudley

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:04 pm
by expat66
Ann in 1891...

31 Crescent, Willenhall, Staffordshire, England
Ann Robinson,51, hd, widow, milkseller born Penn,
William J Robinson,5, grandson born Willenhall

Expat :-)

Re: Joseph Robinson & Ann New marriage in 1863 Dudley

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:11 pm
by expat66
Now I am confused :?

1871 Radley Gutter, Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
William Robinson,50, furnace labourer born Bideford Devon,
Ann,32,wife, born Penn,
Agnes,7,daughter,
Mary,2,daughter... both born Willenhall

That's a William not a Joseph? :think:

Am I looking at the wrong Ann?
Expat :?

Re: Joseph Robinson & Ann New marriage in 1863 Dudley

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:43 am
by Northern Lass
expat66 wrote:Now I am confused :?

1871 Radley Gutter, Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
William Robinson,50, furnace labourer born Bideford Devon,
Ann,32,wife, born Penn,
Agnes,7,daughter,
Mary,2,daughter... both born Willenhall

That's a William not a Joseph? :think:

Am I looking at the wrong Ann?
Expat :?


Any bapts for Agnes or mary?

Re: Joseph Robinson & Ann New marriage in 1863 Dudley

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:46 am
by Northern Lass
expat66 wrote:Now I am confused :?

1871 Radley Gutter, Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
William Robinson,50, furnace labourer born Bideford Devon,
Ann,32,wife, born Penn,
Agnes,7,daughter,
Mary,2,daughter... both born Willenhall

That's a William not a Joseph? :think:

Am I looking at the wrong Ann?
Expat :?


That looks the right Ann for dau to John and Elizabeth
maybe Joseph died and this is his brother
big age gap

can't see a marriage

Re: Joseph Robinson & Ann New marriage in 1863 Dudley

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:01 am
by mallosa
expat66 wrote:Now I am confused :?

1871 Radley Gutter, Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
William Robinson,50, furnace labourer born Bideford Devon,
Ann,32,wife, born Penn,
Agnes,7,daughter,
Mary,2,daughter... both born Willenhall

That's a William not a Joseph? :think:

Am I looking at the wrong Ann?
Expat :?


Here's the above family in 1881..

38 Mill Street, Willenhall
Ann Robinson 43 Head Marr Dom Serv Unemployed Penn
Agnes Robinson 17 Dau Unm Key Filer unemployed Willenhall
Mary Robinson 12 Dau Willenhall

Re: Joseph Robinson & Ann New marriage in 1863 Dudley

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:34 pm
by dianel
expat66 wrote:Now I am confused :?

1871 Radley Gutter, Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
William Robinson,50, furnace labourer born Bideford Devon,
Ann,32,wife, born Penn,
Agnes,7,daughter,
Mary,2,daughter... both born Willenhall

That's a William not a Joseph? :think:

Am I looking at the wrong Ann?
Expat :?


Could this William be Joseph's father?

Re: Joseph Robinson & Ann New marriage in 1863 Dudley

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:46 pm
by Northern Lass
if anyone wishes to work thru this and add to Bcc save wasting marriage info pls do

Flagging to archive otherwise