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Ok mumbles I have changed on Bcc

poss 1858 MORETON Mary J Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/27/27

1885
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MORTON Mary J GUEST William Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/005/278

mumbles wrote:Definitely Mary Jane on 1881 Census and Mary J. on 1871 Census and Mary J. on 1901 Census but Polly in 1911

have we got this Wm guest on Bcc?

can we connect up mumbles?

mumbles wrote:http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=103614&randi=340396010

Connection to Alfred Boot is confirmed by CWGC record which shows his wife as Emma at 56 John Street which is her parents house in 1911

I meant Wm guest no father on marriage certif so wondered who he was
need a new thread really for him

marraige sent to you thanks RF

and nice one mumbles

do you want to run with this still?

clue to william guest is a lizzie guest aged 18 staying with family in 1891

Possible reason for no father for William Guest

1871 Census Siviter's Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
John Carter Head 39 Nailer
Sarah Carter wife 35 Nailer born Wood Gate Worcs.
William Carter son 10 Scholar
Joseph Carter son 4mths
Michiel Law boarder 71
Mary Carter mother 67
Rest born Rowley Regis

1881 Census 15 Siviter's Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
John Carter Head 50 (single) Nail Maker
William Guest son 19 Stone Breaker @ Quarry
Elizabeth Guest dau 7 Scholar
Benjamin Smith boarder 44 Farm Labourer
All born Rowley Regis

On BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =589615728

Marriage info
24th May 1885 St. John Halesowen
William Guest 22 Bach. 22 Tradesman of Long Lane Hill Father not noted
Mary Jane Morton 26 Sp. Nail Maker of Long Lane Hill Father William Morton Carter
Witnesses :- John Rolandson and Mary Rolandson
All made Mark

?? a bit odd??

1851. Village, Rowley Regis
William Thompson, head, 24, Nailer
Samuel Law, brother in law, 40, Pauper nailer
Michael Law, brother in law, 42, Nailer
Mary Carter, Inmate, 48, nailer
John Carter, Inmate, 20, Coal miner
Hannah Carter, Inmate, 5,
Joseph Lee, Inmate, 50, Wall Builder
Sarah Smith, Inmate, 51,
Ann Smith, Inmate, 26,
Hannah Smith, Inmate, 19,
Benjamin Smith, Inmate, 14,
William Smith, Inmate, 10
Sarah Smith, Inmate, 2 months
All born Rowley Regis

1861. Rowley Village, Rowley Regis
Michael Law, head, 55, Nailer
Mary Law, wife, 55, Nailer,
Hannah Law, daur, 16, Nailer
/John Carter, Lodger, 32, Coal Miner
Sarah Carter, wife, 26, Nailer, Northfield
John carter, son, 1 day
All others born Rowley Regis

That will take some sorting out from the Carters,Smiths,Laws,Thompson and Guests
It looks as if William Guest was William Carter and changed name ?

The William Thompson above is the same one who married Leticia Rowbottom added by Jo

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =795170832

Thats me mumbles

I was just looking at this again its such a pickle isnt it?

I think I have found some names from the 1851 census in 1841, I'll post just now
Jo

Hmmm just looking Theres this,
1861. Black Heath, Rowley Regis
George Skipton, head, 36, Rivet Maker
Harriet, wife, 38,Nailer
Elizabeth, daur, 3,
Frederick Tout?, lodger, 13, Nailer
/Emma Guest, ? 22, Nailer (I cant tell what relationship or condition says?)
William Guest, 10 months,
All born Rowley Regis

Theres a marriage??
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1864
GUEST Emma MORETON Thomas Sedgley, All Saints Dudley Register Office 216/012/290

Just seemed a coincidence??

I have added to look ups just to see.

1841 Census Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Law 74 Nailer
Samuel Law 35 Nailer
William Law 10
/Sarah Thompson 58 Nailer
Sarah Smith 40 Nailer
Hannah Smith 9
Benjamin Smith 5
All born Staffs.

1841 Census Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Michael Law 40 Nailer
Ann Carter 40
Elizabeth Carter 14
John Carter 10
Sarah Carter 7
Joseph Rose 74 Labourer
Mary Law 40
All born Staffs. except John Carter

I think it will be best to split William Thompson off from this. That info on BCC could do with updating too, it must have been done a long time ago.
Jo

George Skipton is on bcc but other people in house not added in 1861

George Skiptons household isnt so clear, I cant see Emmas relationship, looks like head and lodger over each other? Emma has another schedule number but it does have / near Frederick Tout then // next to William. To me it looks like the same house. Found the 1871 census for George and added that too.
Jo