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I am opening this for this family and we can add to Connections.

He is mentioned in the bugle article so.....

"Samuel Sturman, died 22 September 1916";

I think he married a Hannah Maria and I think his dau is the one that Pete found but could do with some help on this guys

STURMAN Annie M TAYLOR John 1909 Rowley Regis, St Giles West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 18/10/376

think on an early census they are living near Taylors not sure if Hannah maria is a Taylor.

I notice you have this one in BCC,
here is his burial,

Samuel Thomas Edward Sturman. 58 Years, 01/04/1919. Dudley Cemetery, Section F 630.

Thanks Jimmy !

Rite got it!
went on the 1911 census and found that the Samuel Sturman married to Lucy Lydia Foulkes is indeed the one mentioned as dying in 1916
so that Annie Foulkes who was a "quiet girl" bit like me!....must of been Lucy Lydias dau! woo hoo!

So Samuel Sturman must have been married prev to that Hannah and she died.

I bet Lucy then relates to Caroline not sure how
she is b abt 1861 age 50 on 1911 census.
so 20 yr gap
so who did Lucy Lydia marry was it a Foulkes prev?
or was that her maiden name.

Samuel is aged 57 on 1911 census

Deaths Jun 1907
STURMAN Hannah Annie 55 Dudley 6c 9

and this looks like the marriage....

1875
STURMAN Samuel WILLIAMS Anna H Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/010/346

now I need em on the census previously this Samuel Sturman and Hannah

and need to know how Lucy Lydia Foulkes links....

Can anyone see Lucy on the census in 1901?
or a marriage for a Lucy Lydia to a Foulkes?

This looks like first marriage.

Marriages Dec 1875.
BRIDGENS Sarah. Stourbridge 6c 356.
PRICE Abraham. Stourbridge 6c 356.
STURMAN Samuel. Stourbridge 6c 356.
WILLIAMS Anna Hannah. Stourbridge 6c 356.

SAMUEL STURMAN.
ANNA HANNAH WILLIAMS.
Marriage, 20 OCT 1875. Old Swinford, Worcester,

Marriages Mar 1909.
BUNNEY Ernest Henry. Dudley 6c 114.
BUNNEY Janet Muriel. Dudley 6c 114.
FOULKES Lucy Lydia. Dudley 6c 114.
STURMAN Samuel. Dudley 6c 114.

STURMAN Samuel. FOULKES Lucy L, Dudley Register Office. Dudley Register Office. DRO/028/193.

Marriages Mar 1882.
FOULKES Samuel. Stourbridge 6c 173.
HODGETTS Charlotte. Stourbridge 6c 173.
SMART Rober. Stourbridge 6c 173.
WILLIAMS Lucy Lydia. Stourbridge 6c 173.

1882.
FOULKES Samuel. WILLIAMS Lucy L. Halesowen, St John the Baptist. Dudley Register Office. 014/005/30/

1881 census

Samuel STURMAN. Head. M Male 27. Halesowen, Worcester, Cow Keeper (Milk)
Annie H. STURMAN. Wife. M Female 29. Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Walter P. STURMAN. Son. U Male 2. Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Dwelling Hackett St
Census Place. Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Thanks Jimmy

I am now struggling with whether she is Annie Hannah Williams or Hannah annie Williams I think she might be a Hannah

help!

b 1852 ish Rowley Regis

So was Lucy Hannahs sister both called Williams!



footnote...

the annie Foulkes is then the dau of Lucy Lydia Foulkes nee Williams
b 1885
and in bugle article living at Hope Villa Waterfall lane Blackheath
and in 1911 that is where Lucy is living with hubby Samuel Sturman

1861 Census as Anne Hannah Williams born about 1852,
and

Lucy Lydia Williams, born about 1860,

I dont know if they are in the same house.

Thanks Jimmy need to have a look at that.....

Just noticed on the 1901 census that Lucy and dau are living ...you are not going to believe this......next door to Levi arthur Williams and son Clive Williams Waterfall lane.

How does she relate to Clive Williams that we are featuring...
cant be sister as not on census that is shown......
could be a cousin
here is the Levi Williams line.....
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =334672870

and here is the info on Samuel Sturman thus far....
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections




1901 census
Hope Villa Waterfall Lane Rowley Regis
Lucy L Foulkes h wid own means b Worcs H/owen
B or S David son 18 Carpenter b Old hill Staffs
E. Annie G dau 15 Board school teacher b Old hill
Frank Edgar son 10 b Old hill

well, wot a turn up .....see the connections are there I bet....


Births Sep 1885
FOULKES Edith Annie G Dudley 6c 3

Births Dec 1882
Foulkes Samuel David Dudley 6c 25

Births Sep 1890
Foulkes Frank Edgar Dudley 6c 19

1861 as these indexed With Phineas and Maria as parents, living Rowley Regis. so it looks like Lucy and Anne Hannah were sisters.

Anne Hannah Williams. abt 1852.
Ann Maria Williams. abt 1846.
Emma Jane Williams. abt 1848.
George Joseph Williams. abt 1844.
Isaac Benjamin Williams. abt 1858.
Lucy Lydia Williams. abt 1860.
Marey Elizabeth Williams. abt 1856.
Phoebe Rebecca Williams. abt 1854.

Brilliant thanks Jimmy

So those 2 are sisters now we need to know how that Samuel Foulkes links to Caroline Foulkes

are they bro and sister

can we find em on the census

and we need a dob for Samuel Foulkes.

Thanks jimmy

need to get that Caroline on a census hopefully with this Samuel then that would be the link as to why Sturmans are in that bible at all

This now looks completed and will be moved to archived section shortly
thanks for all the help!