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William Rose b 1852----Annie adding to Bcc
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:19 pm
by Northern Lass
I now have the birth for his son
William Rose b 1879 13 Bennett Street Sunderland
can someone pls post who is living there in 1881 pls I can't see that address
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:36 pm
by Northern Lass
Got it
there is an Aaron Leedham b abt 1835 from Worcs living there
in 1881 with wife Margaret (marriage in sunderland in 1868 to a Margaret Tucker)
coincidence that someone born worcs is there in 1881 and Wm Rose is born there in 1879
they must know each other
cant see Aaron Leedham on bcc
who is he?
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:41 pm
by Northern Lass
on 1871 he is b 1843 Lye worcs and living there
can someone post census pls
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:28 pm
by Northern Lass
That is the link Gardener are you awake.....put your grey cells on this one
Aaron Leedham son of Job and Mary Leedham
and Spencer dodson
Spencer Dodson Rose bro of Wm Rose
had a son Alfred
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =918223702he has son Horace rose who marries Elizabeth Leedham
in 1950
Name: Elizabeth Leedham
Mother's Maiden Surname: Roberts
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1928
Registration district: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 6c
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =332412235So Horace Rose and Elizabeth Leedham marry
Elizabeth links back to Aaron Leedham
and
Horace back to Wm Rose
and look
Mary Ann Dodsons bro John Dodson has a son Wm Dodson who marries Margaret Leedham she is born 1875 Sunderland
no idea how she links to leedhams
but notice the name Roberts!
Selina Roberts was with Wm Smart and that Wm Smart jnr who I think is Wm Rose
had mother Ann Roberts and father Wm Smart
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:47 pm
by gardener
ooph!
There is a couple in Lye, Job Leedham and Mary.
They have millions of children including:
Thomas Leedham b 1834, m Sarah Ann; have son Joseph Leedham b 1889. I think he marries Gertrude Roberts in 1915 Stourbridge dist.; their daughter Elizabeth b 1928 marries Horace Rose.
Aaron Leedham b 1843, m Margaret Tucker 1868 Sunderland district; have daughter Margaret b 1875 Sunderland; she marries William Spencer Dodson.
So I agree that the Leedhams connect the Rose and Dodson families.
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:31 pm
by Northern Lass
Can someone post the census pls for AAron Leedham pls
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =585927743So Margaret is dau of aaron and Margaret?
if so we need to connect up
Ok can someone post census for Job Leedham and Mary pls
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:35 pm
by Northern Lass
gardener wrote:ooph!
There is a couple in Lye, Job Leedham and Mary.
They have millions of children including:
Thomas Leedham b 1834, m Sarah Ann; have son Joseph Leedham b 1889. I think he marries Gertrude Roberts in 1915 Stourbridge dist.; their daughter Elizabeth b 1928 marries Horace Rose.
Aaron Leedham b 1843, m Margaret Tucker 1868 Sunderland district; have daughter Margaret b 1875 Sunderland; she marries William Spencer Dodson.
So I agree that the Leedhams connect the Rose and Dodson families.
We have Joseph leedham marrying Gertrude Roberts
but his father is James not Thomas as you say above

Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:17 pm
by snoopysue
1851 census
Waste Bank, Stourbridge Union
Job Leedham, Head, Mar, 42, Shoe Maker, Burton Shropshire
Mary, Wife, Mar, 45, Nail Forger, Wollescote Worcestershire
Thomas, Son, Unmar, 19, Nail Forger, Wollescote
James, Son, Unmar, 17, Nail Forger, Wollescote
Job, Son, Unmar, 15, Nail Forger, Wollescote
David, Son, Unmar, 13, Wollescote
Emma, Daur, 11, Wollescote
Aaron, Son, 8, Wollescote
Mary A, Daur, 5, Wollescote
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:20 pm
by grangers14
1841. Waste Bank, Old Swinford
Job Leedham, 30, shoe maker, Not born County
Mary, 35,
Esther? 15, Not born County
Phillis, 11
Thomas, 9
James, 7
Job, 5
David, 3
Emma, 8 months
All others born in County
1861. Waste Bank, Wollescote
Job Leedham, head, 42, shoe maker, Burton, Shropshire
Mary, wife, 45, nail forger
Thomas, son, 19, nail forger
James, son, 17, nail forger
Job, son, 15, nail forger
David, son, 13,
Emma, daur, 11,
Aaron, son, 8
Mary A, daur, 5
All others born Wollescote
1871. Waste Bank, Wollescote
Job Leedham, head, 50, Shoe maker, Burton upon Trent
Mary, wife, 52, nail maker,
James, son, 26,
David, son, 23, nail maker
Emma, daur, 20, nail maker
Aaron, son, 18, nail maker
Mary A, daur, 16, nail maker
Esther, sister, U, 70? Burton upon Trent
Benjamin Shaw, visitor, 8, Quarry Bank
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:31 pm
by grangers14
Transcribed and looks like Ludham
1871. Beefeater ?, Lye
Job Ludham, head, 62, Shoe Maker, Clent
Mary, wife, 65,
Thomas Watson, son in law, 24, ? nut maker
Mary Ann Watson, daur, 24, nail maker
Ann Maria Shaw, grand daur, 12, Quarry Bank
John Thomas Leedham, grand son, 4
All others born Lye
1881. Beefeater Field, Wollescote
James Leedham, head, 35
Sarah, wife, 27, Wolaston
Ellen Louisa, daur, 8
Emma, daur. 6,
Alfred, son, 5
John Albert, son, 3,
Susanna, daur, 1
All others born Lye
\Job Leedahm, lodger, W,73, shoe maker, unemplyed, Burton
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:20 pm
by Northern Lass
could someone help add this lot for me pls.
And can anyone see on the 1881 Wm rose and Jan on Bennett st Sunderland
near number 13
just wondered if they were living near there.
It seems odd that Wm Rose and Jane know Aaron Leedham that early on.
As the connection to the Dodsons and Roses is later in 1894 for Wm Dodson and Margaret Leedham.
So how did they know of each other.
very odd

Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:59 pm
by gardener
Northern Lass wrote:gardener wrote:ooph!
There is a couple in Lye, Job Leedham and Mary.
They have millions of children including:
Thomas Leedham b 1834, m Sarah Ann; have son Joseph Leedham b 1889. I think he marries Gertrude Roberts in 1915 Stourbridge dist.; their daughter Elizabeth b 1928 marries Horace Rose.
Aaron Leedham b 1843, m Margaret Tucker 1868 Sunderland district; have daughter Margaret b 1875 Sunderland; she marries William Spencer Dodson.
So I agree that the Leedhams connect the Rose and Dodson families.
We have Joseph leedham marrying Gertrude Roberts
but his father is James not Thomas as you say above

Meant James, sorry.
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:09 am
by gardener
Northern Lass wrote:could someone help add this lot for me pls.
And can anyone see on the 1881 Wm rose and Jan on Bennett st Sunderland
near number 13
just wondered if they were living near there.
It seems odd that Wm Rose and Jane know Aaron Leedham that early on.
As the connection to the Dodsons and Roses is later in 1894 for Wm Dodson and Margaret Leedham.
So how did they know of each other.
very odd

Aaron seems to have zapped up to Sunderland, married Margaret and had kid, then gone back to Lye in time for 1871 census.
1871
Cross Walk, Lye
Aaron Leedham 28 hammer maker Lye
Margaret ditto 27 Sunderland, Bishop Wearmouth
George ditto son 1 ditto
Robert ditto son 9mo ditto
1881
13 Bennet St Sunderland
Aron Leadham 46 Worcetershire
George ditto son 12 Durham Sunderland
M ditto dau 2 ditto
Margaret ditto wife 45 South Wales
Margaret ditto dau 6 Sunderland
John Dodson (1831) and his brother George (1847) (brothers to Mary Ann who married Samuel Rose) were in Bishop Wearmouth by the 1871 census so it is possible that The Leedham connection was made then ie about 1868-1870 when Aaron was up there too. Then Aaron moved back to Lye, then back to co Durham and his daughter Margaret was born. Then she marries the son of John Dodson.
Re: William Rose b 1852
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:24 am
by Northern Lass
could someone add the census and kids pls for the leedhams for me

Re: *help pls adding to bcc* --William Rose b 1852
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:47 pm
by Annie
I will add them Northern Lass.
Annie