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*Archive* Jo Adding...Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:09 pm
by Northern Lass
can we find him on 1841 and 1851 with dau Mary Ann brettell pls

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =455138019

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:29 pm
by grangers14
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Transcribed and looks like Brittle
1841. Pare Tree Street, Rowley Regis
Joseph Fowler, 35, Coal Miner, not born in county
Nancy Fowler, 40, not born in county
Nancy Brittle, 15,
Lucy, 14,
Meria, 12
Mary, 7,
Benjamin, 6,
Josiah, 3,
Fanny, 9 month
Hannah Fowler, 20, not born in county
All others born in County

Transcribed as Brittle
1851. Back of Garrets Lane, Rowley Regis
Nancy Tromans, head, W, 50, Nail maker, Halesowen
Mary A Brittle, daur, 20, Nail maker
Benjamin, son, 16, Coalminer
Josiah, son, 12, chain maker
Maria Cooper, Lodger, W, 23, chain maker
Timothy, son, 5,
Hannah, daur, 3,
Thomas, son, 2,
Mary A Brettle, Lodger, U, 18, Nail Maker
Benjamin, son, 2,
John, son, 1 month
All others born Rowley Regis

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:35 pm
by grangers14
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1841
FOWLER Joseph BRETTELL Nancy Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/001/253

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:39 pm
by grangers14
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Family search
Benjamin Brettell
marriage: 23 Aug 1818 Salop,"‹ England
spouse: Nancy Hardeman
groom's marital status: Widowed
bride's marital status: Single

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:15 pm
by grangers14
Im getting myself in a pickle with this :crazy:

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family search

groom's name: Thomas Cooper
bride's name: Maria Brittle
marriage date: 25 Jun 1849
marriage place: Rowley- Regis, Stafford, England
groom's father's name: James Cooper
bride's father's name: Benjamin Brittle

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:30 pm
by Jimmy
grangers14 wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1841
FOWLER Joseph BRETTELL Nancy Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/001/253


WOR. Halesowen. St Johns.
30 May 1841. Joseph FOWLER. Full. bachelor. collier. Hasbury. Thomas FOWLER collier.
Nancy BRETTELL. Full. widow. nailer. Hasbury. Josiah HARDEMAN. nailer.

Witnesses. Thomas BAYLIS. Lucy WILLIAMS.

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:21 pm
by dianel
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Extracted
IGI Individual Record

NANCY FOWLER
Spouse: WILLIAM TRUMAN
Marriage: 05 JAN 1845 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

Think Nancy hadn't much luck with husbands.

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:28 pm
by grangers14
1851. Leon Wharf. The Hill
James Griffin, head, 35, Farmers waggoner, Worcestershire
Nancy, wife, 28, Nailer, Halesowen
Elizabeth, daur, 10, ?
Deliliah, daur, 8, Rowley
Solomon, son, 6,
A? Son, 4,
John, son, 2,
All others born Rowley Regis

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:37 pm
by dianel
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

Joseph Fowler
DEATH: Oct 1842 - Dudley, Staffordshire
or
Joseph Fowler
DEATH: Jan 1844 - Dudley, Staffordshire

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:15 pm
by dianel
grangers14 wrote:
Transcribed as Brittle
1851. Back of Garrets Lane, Rowley Regis
Nancy Tromans, head, W, 50, Nail maker, Halesowen
Mary A Brittle, daur, 20, Nail maker
Benjamin, son, 16, Coalminer
Josiah, son, 12, chain maker
Maria Cooper, Lodger, W, 23, chain maker
Timothy, son, 5,
Hannah, daur, 3,
Thomas, son, 2,
Mary A Brettle, Lodger, U, 18, Nail Maker
Benjamin, son, 2,
John, son, 1 month
All others born Rowley Regis


Can only see one Mary Ann, daughter of Benjamin & Nancy. Was she written down twice in census - once as daughter of Nancy and once as unmarried mother of Benjamin (b. 1849) and John (b. 1850)?

IGI Extracted:
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Maria Brettle
christening: 07 Jun 1829 HALESOWEN, WORCESTER, ENGLAND
residence: Worcester, England
parents: Benjamin Brettle, Nancy

Lucy Brettle
christening: 28 Jan 1827 HALESOWEN, WORCESTER, ENGLAND
residence: Worcester, England
parents: Benjamin Brettle, Nancy

Mary Ann Brettle
christening: 01 Apr 1832 HALESOWEN, WORCESTER, ENGLAND
residence: Worcester, England
parents: Benjamin Brettle, Nancy

Benjamin Brettell
christening: 07 Sep 1834 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
parents: Benjamin Brettell, Nancy

Josiah Brettle
christening: 01 Jul 1838 HALESOWEN, WORCESTER, ENGLAND
residence: Worcester, England
parents: Benjamin Brettle, Nancy

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:39 am
by grangers14
Im not sure Di. On 1841, although we dont have relationships...I thought the younger Nancy may be Mary Ann at first?

Transcribed and looks like Brittle
1841. Pare Tree Street, Rowley Regis
Joseph Fowler, 35, Coal Miner, not born in county
Nancy Fowler, 40, not born in county
Nancy Brittle, 15,
Lucy, 14,
Meria, 12
Mary, 7,
Benjamin, 6,
Josiah, 3,
Fanny, 9 month
Hannah Fowler, 20, not born in county
All others born in County

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:23 am
by Northern Lass
Anyone up to adding this info?

Jo any chance? :grin:

Re: Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:28 am
by grangers14
Yep leave it with me...
Jo :)

Re: Jo Adding...Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:08 pm
by grangers14

Re: Jo Adding...Benjamin Brettell

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:23 pm
by grangers14
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We also have 2 Fanny Brettells born 1840. 1 belonging to Nancy Hardman (Brettell) the other belonging to her daughter Nancy who married Eber Johnson, no marriage found.
here on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =300140481

Wheres Fanny b abt 1840 in 1851?

I can see 2 possible births

Freebmd
Female Brittle, Jul-Aug-Sep 1840 Dudley 18 Page: 300

Fanny Brettle Jul-Aug-Sep 1841 West Bromwich 18 530 ( I think this one is in West Brom in 1851 with family)