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I just came across a submitted entry

Elizabeth Brettle born Dudley 1826 m Henry Cottle 27th April 1850 parents Jesse Brettle and Mary Round
died: 24 JUL 1866 Kidnapped By Ind,Near, Laramie, Albany, Wyoming

Is this her?

1841
Dudley
Jessee Brettle 30 nailer y
Mary ditto 25 y
Elizth ditto 10 y
Thos ditto 7 y
Samuell ditto 2

It looks like them Gardner, when did they move abroad.

Poss
Jesse Brettle
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Mary Round
Marriage Date: 4 Jun 1827
Marriage Place: Clent, Worcestershire, England
?????
Jesse Brettle
Date of Trial: 31 Dec 1860
Trial Year: 1860
Location of Trial: Worcestershire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: Receiving stolen goods
Date of Execution or Release:





Annie

No idea! I was just browsing when I found them on familysearch. I wonder if more of the famil went over?

Henry Cottle.
Groom's Birth Date: 1826.
Groom's Age: 24.
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Brettell.
Bride's Birth Date: 1830.
Bride's Age: 20.
Marriage Date: 27 Apr 1850.
Marriage Place: St. Martin, Tipton, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: William Cottle.
Bride's Father's Name: Jesse Brettell.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16744-8.
System Origin: England-VR.
Source Film Number: 1526189.
Reference Number: 2:3Q4ZBV4.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957.

Name: Jesse Brittle. Nailer.
Arrival Date: 4 Oct 1862.
Birth Year: abt 1807.
Age: 55.
Place of Origin: England.
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England.
Destination: United States of America.
Port of Arrival: New York.
Port Arrival State: New York.
Port Arrival Country: United States.
Ship Name: Resolute.

Mary Brittle. [Mary Round Brittle].
Arrival Date: 4 Oct 1862.
Birth Year: abt 1807.
Age: 55.

Thomas Cottle.
Arrival Date: 4 Oct 1862.
Birth Year: abt 1851.
Age: 11.


Name: William Cottle.
Arrival Date: 4 Oct 1862.
Birth Year: abt 1853.
Age: 9.

1861. Back Crown Inn, Dudley.
Thomas Brittle 27. Coal miner.
Eliza Brittle 32.
Benjamin Johnson 12. Stepson.
Joseph Brittle 5. Son.
Mary A Brittle 2. Dau.
Selina Brittle 9 MO. Dau.
Mary Brittle 50. Mother. Mar. Laundress.
Thomas Cottle 9. Grand son.
William Cottle 8. Grand son.

All born Bilston.

So that looks as though Mary Brettle went out with two of the children? Bad idea, I found this post on a board, regarding William Henry's grave

"Wow to read the story of his family in Pioneer overland travel in the John Daniel Holiday Company 1866. 10 Jul his 8yr old bro dies, 24 Jul his mother Eliz Brettle is kidnapped by indians and killed, his grandmother Ann Adams Cottle and 12yr old bro George die the same day. His grandfather Wm Cottle die the next day. Wm Henry, his father Henry, bro Thomas Edward and sis Annie Eliz go on to Zion. What history we all have."
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=18930071

(Edited after I woke up a bit)

A bit more on these links,

http://lds.org/churchhistory/library/pi ... 21,00.html

http://lds.org/churchhistory/library/pi ... 21,00.html

noticed some groves and tibbets on there to jimmy

Brought this back at the request of dumblonde who has some more info

we can run with it and see what we can verify and maybe add to Bcc

From Family Search sites, old and new

Elizabeth Brettle b Apr 1826 Dudley daughter of Jesse Brettle and Mary Round both born Horsley Gloucestershire
Elizabeth died 24/7/1866 (this is assumed death as she was kidnapped by Indians)

Elizabeth married Henry Cottle27/4/1850

Henry Cottle b 3/5/1822 Horsley Gloucestershire of William Cottle of Cockle and Ann Adams
Henry chr 7/8/1825
Henry died 19/12/1872 Sacramento,Sacto,Ca.

Jesse Brettle b 1802 Horsley Gloucestershire
Jesse Brettle bap 24/4/1804 Park Lane Presbyterian Cradley of Thomas Brettle and Nancy nee Siddaway
Jesse Brettle died Aug 1866 Pueblo or Denver Colarado
Jesse Brettle m Mary Round 4/6/1827 Clent

Nancy Siddaway bap 19/7/1789 Halesowen of William Siddaway and Mary
Thomas Brettle m Nancy Siddaway 19/9/1803 Halesowen

Jesse Brettle and Mary nee Round children
Elizabeth b 1826
Samuel bap 11/2/1838 St Thomas Dudley

Family Search Site old and new contd

Children of Elizabeth and Henry Cottle

Thomas Edward Cottle b 22/11/1850 Dudley died 1/3/1908 Plain City , Weber County, Utah, USA buried 4/3/1908 Plain City
William Henry Cottle b 22/3/1852Dudley died 22/5/1928 Plain City, Weber County, Utah, USA, buried 25/5/1928, Plain City
George Cottle b 1854 Springs Mire Dudley died 24/7/1866
Annie Elizabeth Cottle b 25/8/1855 died 26/5/1943
Joseph Cottle b1858 Springs Mire Dudley died10/7/1866

Info found for me by Jimmy from Emmigration Records
Name: Henry Cottle - Blacksmith
Arrival date: 17/11/1856
Birth year: abt 1824
Age: 32
Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination : United States of America
Port of arrival: New York
Port arrival State: New York
Port of arrival country: United States
Ships name: DeWitt Clinton

Ther's more

I believe that Thomas Brittle and wife Eliza on 1861 census you found is Elizabeth's brother and wife but I can't remember where I found that info.

Mary Brettle who does Brettle/ Brettell One Name Study sent me this info:

Thomas (Jesse Brettle father) was bap 15/4/1774 and is the son of Nathan and Obedience Brettell (nee Tay), brother of Charles bap 5/1/1776 who is on BCC

She sent these very interesting websites

http://familycottle.blogspot.com/2009_1 ... chive.html

and found these links:

http://www.geni.com/people/Elizabeth-Co ... 0839770899

http://lds.org/churchhistory/library/pi ... 35,00.html

http://www.ourfamiliesroots.org/pioneers/company/18.htm

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... frompage=0

http://lds.org/churchhistory/library/pi ... 21,00.html
http://lds.org/churchhistory/library/pi ... 21,00.html

Any relation,

Joseph Brittle. (Puddler)
Arrival Date: 22 May 1855.
Birth Year: abt 1832.
Age: 23.
Gender: Male.
Nationality: English.
Place of Origin: England.
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England.
Destination: United States of America.
Port of Arrival: New York.
Port Arrival State: New York.
Port Arrival Country: United States.
Ship Name: Progress.

Elizabeth Brittle
Arrival Date: 22 May 1855.
Birth Year: abt 1832.
Age: 23.
Gender: Female.
Nationality: English.
Place of Origin: England.
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England.
Destination: Chicago, Illinois.
Port of Arrival: New York.
Port Arrival State: New York.
Port Arrival Country: United States.
Ship Name: Progress.