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*Archive?* Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:12 pm
by grangers14
Relates to this thread
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=10989&p=129713#p12971321st March 1841. St Thomas, Dudley
Joseph Harris, Minor, B, Labourer, Gosty Hill Parish of Halesowen, Andrew Harris, Nailer
Caroline Harris, Minor, S, Gosty Hill, James Harris, Nailer
Banns
X of both
Witnesses:- X of Thomas Harris. X of Elizabeth Harris
1841. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
Joseph Harris, 19, Nailer
Caroline, 17
Both not born in County
James Harris Carolines father can we find him?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =667802877
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:52 pm
by grangers14
Is this James??
Page previous to Joseph and Caroline
Transcribed as Harrigs looks like Harriss
1841. Gosty Hill, Rolwey Regis
James Harris, 60, Nailor
Mary, 60,
Sarah, 40,
Heber, 30,
Matilda, 20, Nailor
James, 4,
Caroline, 2,
All born in County
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:42 pm
by Annie
grangers14 wrote:Is this James??
Page previous to Joseph and Caroline
Transcribed as Harrigs looks like Harriss
1841. Gosty Hill, Rolwey Regis
James Harris, 60, Nailor
Mary, 60,
Sarah, 40,
Heber, 30,
Matilda, 20, Nailor
James, 4,
Caroline, 2,
All born in County
It could be Grangers was Caroline's mam called Mary do you know.
Annie
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:56 pm
by Annie
Trying to see if there is a censu where her mother is with them but no luck so far.
Annie
1851 Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
HARRIS, Joseph Head Married M 29 1822 Nailmaker
Halesowen
Worcestershire
HARRIS, Caroline Wife Married 27 1824 Schoolmistress
France British Sub
HARRIS, Elizabeth Daughter 8 1843
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HARRIS, Joseph Son 5 1846
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HARRIS, Rebecca Daughter 2 1849
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
1861 Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
HARRIS, Joseph Head Married 39 1822 Nail Maker Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HARRIS, Caroline Wife 37 1824 Nail Maker France British Subject
HARRIS, Elizabeth Daughter 18 1843 Nail Maker Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HARRIS, Rebecc a daug 12 1849 Nail Maker Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HARRIS, Sarah Daug 9 1852 Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HARRIS, Lucy Daug 5 1856 Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HARRIS, Andrew Son 1 1860 Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:27 pm
by Annie
Can't find Joseph and Caroline in 1881 or 1891 , but found a Joseph who could be with daughter Rebecca and then with dau Lucy , but each census says he is married .
Annie
1871 Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
HARRIS, Joseph Head Marr 49 Staffordshire
HARRIS, Caroline Wife marr 47 Staffordshire
HARRIS, Lucy Daug 15 Staffordshire
HARRIS, Andrew Son 13 Staffordshire
All nailmaker
1881 8, The Village, Rowley Regis
GYMAN, John Head Married 32 1849 Coal Miner
Rowley Regis
GYMAN,
Rebecca Wife Married 32 1849
Rowley Regis
GYMAN, George Son Single M 11 1870
Rowley Regis
GYMAN, Rozillah Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Rowley Regis
GYMAN, James Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Rowley Regis
GYMAN, John Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
Rowley Regis
HARRIS, Joseph Lodger Married M 59 1822 Nail Maker
Rowley Regis
1891 63, Gosty Hill, Old Hill
NOCK, James Head Marr 36 1855 Coal Miner
Rowley Regis
NOCK,
Lucy Wife Marr 36 1855 Nail Maker
Rowley Regis
NOCK, Samuel Son 12 1879 Scholar
Rowley Regis
NOCK, Amy E Daugh 10 1881 Scholar
Rowley Regis
NOCK, Horace Son 8 1883 Scholar
Rowley Regis
NOCK, Vincre R Daug 6 1885 Scholar
Rowley regis
NOCK, Dora Daug 1 1890 Scholar
Rowley Regis
HARRIS, Joseph Father In Law Married 70 1821 Nail Maker
Rowley Regis
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:32 pm
by Jimmy
Submitted on IGI.
Caroline Harris.
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Feb 1824.
Baptism/Christening Place: St. John, Halesowen, Worcester.
Father's Name: James Harris.
Mother's Name: Elizabeth.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03890-0.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 350497.
Reference Number: 239.
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:46 pm
by Jimmy
Burials.
NBI.
2 Jun 1837. Elizabeth HARRIS. 39. Halesowen, St John the Baptist.
St John's Halesowen.
2 Jun 1837. Elizabeth. HARRIS 39. Gosty Hill.
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:48 pm
by grangers14
Can someone look at the image and check what it says for James and Matilda, I think it may say son of sister and } with Matilda?
1851. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
Eber Harris, head, U, 44, Nail maker
Mary Harris, Mother inmate, mar, 75, Employed in household work
Thomas Cornwell, Inmate, 35, Waggoner,Lledbury, Herefordshire
Matilda, wife, 34, Employed in household work
George, son, 7,
Thomas, son, 5,
Ann, daur, 2,
James, son of ? 14, nail maker
Matilda, son of ? 14, nail maker
All others born Rowley Regis
1861. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
Eber Harris, head, 54, Nail Maker
/Thomas Cornwell, head, 46, Labourer, Ledbury
Matilda, wife, 44, Nail maker
George, son, 18, chain maker
Thomas, son, 15, chain maker
Ann, daur, 12, nail Maker
Elizabeth, daur, 10,
Mary, daur, 5
All others born Rowley Regsi
1871. Gosty Hill. Rowley Regis
Heber Harris, Head, 67, Nail maker, Rowley Regis
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:04 pm
by grangers14
Jimmy wrote:Submitted on IGI.
Caroline Harris.
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Feb 1824.
Baptism/Christening Place: St. John, Halesowen, Worcester.
Father's Name: James Harris.
Mother's Name: Elizabeth.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03890-0.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 350497.
Reference Number: 239.
? could be another James or James remarried??
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:07 pm
by grangers14
Wonder if this is Rebecas marriage?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1869
HARRIS Rebecca LAVINAN John Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/027/277
I think it may be Layman though?
Lucys marriage?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1876
HARRIS Lucy NOCK James Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/001/336
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:46 pm
by grangers14
grangers14 wrote:Can someone look at the image and check what it says for James and Matilda, I think it may say son of sister and } with Matilda?
1851. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
Eber Harris, head, U, 44, Nail maker
Mary Harris, Mother inmate, mar, 75, Employed in household work
Thomas Cornwell, Inmate, 35, Waggoner,Lledbury, Herefordshire
Matilda, wife, 34, Employed in household work
George, son, 7,
Thomas, son, 5,
Ann, daur, 2,
James, son of ? 14, nail maker
Matilda, son of ? 14, nail maker
All others born Rowley Regis
Re: Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:14 pm
by Jimmy
grangers14 wrote:Can someone look at the image and check what it says for James and Matilda, I think it may say son of sister and } with Matilda?
1851. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
Eber Harris, head, U, 44, Nail maker
Mary Harris, Mother inmate, mar, 75, Employed in household work
Thomas Cornwell, Inmate, 35, Waggoner,Lledbury, Herefordshire
Matilda, wife, 34, Employed in household work
George, son, 7,
Thomas, son, 5,
Ann, daur, 2,
James, son of ? 14, nail maker
Matilda, son of ? 14, nail maker
All others born Rowley Regis.
1851. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Eber Harris, head, U, 44, Nail maker. Rowley Regis.
Mary Harris, Mother inmate, mar, 75, Employed in household work. Rowley Regis.
Thomas Cornwell, Inmate, 35, Waggoner,Lledbury, Herefordshire.
Matilda, wife, 34, Employed in household work. Rowley Regis.
George, son, 7, Rowley Regis.
Thomas, son, 5, Halesowen.
Ann, daur, 2, Rowley Regis.
James,
Harris. son of see No 4. Matilda. 14, nail maker. Rowley Regis.
This Matilda not on image.
Matilda, son of ? 14, nail maker.
Re: *Another Pair of Eyes?* Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:50 pm
by grangers14
Thanks for looking Jimmy
On the image in relaion to household box it has Matilda. Do you think this refers to son of see no 4 Matilda or a squashed in other name?
Im thinking that the 1841 census has
Transcribed as Harrigs looks like Harriss
1841 Gorsty Hill, Rowley
James Harriss 60 - Nailor
Mary Harriss 60
Sarah Harrigs 40
Heber Harriss 30
Matilda Harriss 20 - Nailor
James Harriss 4
Caroline Harriss 2
all b in c
Is this Caroline really Caroline Matilda, daur of Matilda?
Re: *Another Pair of Eyes?* Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:56 pm
by Jimmy
grangers14 wrote:Do you think this refers to son of see no 4 Matilda or a squashed in other name?
Yes I think it refers to Matilda being James Harris's mother.
Re: *Another Pair of Eyes?* Caroline Harris b abt 1824
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:02 pm
by Jimmy
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1842.
CORNWELL Thomas. JONES Matilda. Halesowen, St John the Baptist. Dudley Register Office. 014/001/327.
WOR. Halesowen. St Johns.
31 Jul 1842.
Thomas CORNWELL. Full. bachelor. farmer. Gosty Hill. Zachariah CORNWELL. farmer.
Matilda JONES. Full. widow. nailer. Gosty Hill. James HARRIS. nailer.
Witnesses, Eber HARRIS. Mary JOHNSON.