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BC wench kindly had a look for this burial for Samuel

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=23257588

this is really odd does anyone have the Cradley Heath MI's?

We have a monumental Inscription
at St Lukes Cradley heath
but no death index for him
and
no actual burial note in register

Samuel Tibbetts-Sep 29th 1864 aged 37-St Luke, Cradley Heath
(Checked in St Luke"™s registers 1 July "“ 25 Dec 1864 but couldn"™t find a burial)

Could it be 1861 he dies

Richtea do you have that link again with that Photo on pls
it looked like 1864 but wondering if it could be 186?

I have the St Luke MI's NL, but they are on fiche, will try and get to Stafford Archives next week and use their reader.

Linell.

I've re-sent the photo to Nl. The headstone quite clearly reads 1864, and gives his age as 37. His name is also first on the headstone, so presumably the first buried.

linell wrote:I have the St Luke MI's NL, but they are on fiche, will try and get to Stafford Archives next week and use their reader.

Linell.

Oh heck and I have a fiche reader and no MI's

that would be great thanks Linell

that photo clearly says 29 sept 1864 and it is deffo in St Lukes Cradley Heath
I have a photo sent by Silver surfer one of the members on Bcc but can't read it
if we could or if anyone can sort it we can upload it

or I will try and get an image from Cradley Heath myself soon.

wonder why not in the actual register and why we cant find a death

he is on the 1861 is there a death anywhere before 1864?

very odd this one is

Will book in the Archives next week NL.

Linell.

A check of the PR for St Lukes, Cradley Heath has failed to find a burial for Samuel Tibbetts, despite a headstone in the churchyard giving his details. Several of us have seen a picture of the headstone.

Looking again at the picture of the headstone:

The first three names look as if they were engraved at the same time. That is Samuel (d. 29 Sep 1864), John (d. 17 May 1877) and Fanny (d. 20 Apr 1899), followed by a prayer, before Emma's details were added, and finally Joseph Dimmock. So, perhaps the stone was first used for the burial of Fanny in 1899 and Emma took the opportunity to add the details for Samuel and John. Also, Emma may have mis-remembered the actual date of Samuel's death if the stone was first erected in 1899.

Perhaps the next step is to see if there is a record of either the burial of John or Fanny in the church records. If there is no burial for John at Cradley Heath, it is likely that the headstone was erected well after the deaths of Samuel and John. I would, however, expect to find a record of the burial of Fanny in the PR.

In the meantime, the search goes on for any record of Samuel's death.

Pos?
From Parish Records
St Luke Reddal Hill
Samuel TIBBETTS Cradley Heath Buried 4 Oct 1868 Age 35yrs

Name: TIBBETTS Samuel
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 35
Volume No: 6D
Page No: 23

[quote="rockyfowler"]Pos?
From Parish Records
St Luke Reddal Hill
Samuel TIBBETTS Cradley Heath Buried 4 Oct 1868 Age 35yrs

If this isn't the husband of Emma Clee, who is it? The time between the death in Birmingham (possibly on 29 September) and the burial in Cradley Heath on 4 October looks about right. So, maybe, when Emma had the headstone erected in 1899, she had the day right, but the year and age wrong?

This date for the death also gives legitimacy to more of Emma's children.

We have a baptism for this Samuel at Cradley on 22 Jan 1832, which was always at odds with the age and dates given on the headstone. The 'new' year is a better fit.

can you post the bapt pls

I think this is great I will send for the death certif is it on wmbsgh?

if this is our Samuel it means that death on gravestone is wrong what a find if it is correct
blimey!

This is from the IGI, so needs authentication!

name: Samuel /Tibbetts/
gender: Male
birth: 1832
Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
christening: 22 Jan 1832
Cradley, Worcester, England


Parents
father: Benjamin /Tibbetts/
mother: Frances /Tibbetts/

Submission
submitter: molsen1112447
submission date: 05 Apr 2007
submission id: MMW4-S2N
person count:

This is from the IGI, so needs authentication!

name: Samuel /Tibbetts/
gender: Male
birth: 1832
Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
christening: 22 Jan 1832
Cradley, Worcester, England

Can confirm the above is in my transcript, says son of Benjamin and Fanny Tibbits Rowley Regis Nailer.

Linell.

Thanks Linell I have added that in.

I have altered info on Samuel with a note and I will sent for the certif
why Birmingham regis I wonder?

ordered certif will update with info archiving this now