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Arc *COMPLETED* 1861 Census help please

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:06 pm
by Annie
Here I have Jane Garbett on the 1851 census with her mother and siblings , but can't find Jane in 1861, can anyone else please. :?

Annie

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:10 pm
by mallosa
Where Annie? I cant see them :?

Re: 1861 Census help please

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:36 pm
by Jimmy
Is this her in 1851,

1851. Wood St, Tipton.
Ann Garbett 45. Widow. Publican. Bilston.
Sarah Garbett 19.
John Garbett 15.
Thomas Garbett 12.
Sophia Garbett 10.
Jane Garbett 5.
Sarah A Atkis 16.

Others born Tipton, Staffordshire.

Re: 1861 Census help please

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:19 pm
by Annie
Jimmy wrote:Is this her in 1851,

1851. Wood St, Tipton.
Ann Garbett 45. Widow. Publican. Bilston.
Sarah Garbett 19.
John Garbett 15.
Thomas Garbett 12.
Sophia Garbett 10.
Jane Garbett 5.
Sarah A Atkis 16.

Others born Tipton, Staffordshire.


Sorry Mally I forgot to add it had a bad day yesterday and today, still today got better, Yes Jimmy that is the one I should have added so thank you. :oops:

Annie

Re: 1861 Census help please

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:58 pm
by mallosa
We all have days like that Anne, well some us :oops:

Re: 1861 Census help please

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:30 pm
by grangers14
Do you know more about her later Annie?
Theres is this death??
Jane Garbett
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
birth: 1843
burial: 13 Nov 1848 Wolverhampton,"‹ Stafford,"‹ England
residence: Bond Street

Re: 1861 Census help please

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:01 pm
by Annie
grangers14 wrote:Do you know more about her later Annie?
Theres is this death??
Jane Garbett
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
birth: 1843
burial: 13 Nov 1848 Wolverhampton,"‹ Stafford,"‹ England
residence: Bond Street



No Jo I don't know a thing about her after that census , I did wonder if she had died but thought I would just make sure she was not on the 1861 census first, I will look at my census for her siblings see any were living at Bond Street , I think it more likely she died will enquire at register office about the certificate and purchase it, so many thanks for your help .

Annie

Completed with thanks.

Re: *COMPLETED* 1861 Census help please

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:01 am
by grangers14
Its a bit odd Annie, Timothy doesnt show up, well I couldnt see him but then was possibly married
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1865
GARBETT Timothy BUSWELL Emily Wednesbury, St Bartholomew Sandwell Register Office 32/4/173
Then living in Yorkshire

1861 May be Sophia in Bilston as a boarder and Barmaid.


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Re: *COMPLETED* 1861 Census help please

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:59 pm
by Annie
grangers14 wrote:Its a bit odd Annie, Timothy doesnt show up, well I couldnt see him but then was possibly married
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1865
GARBETT Timothy BUSWELL Emily Wednesbury, St Bartholomew Sandwell Register Office 32/4/173
Then living in Yorkshire

1861 May be Sophia in Bilston as a boarder and Barmaid.
?


I found that marriage for Timothy Jo and really sure it's G. great grandma's Hannah's half brother , two of Timothy's nieces ended up in Yorkshire, I will have another search for the1861 for Sophia in Bilston you say that could be her , I am having a death checked out for her age and informant see if that is any of the family, Sophie's mam Ann was a publican in 1851 census so Sophie a barmaid could be, thank you for the pionters Jo it helps me a lot.

Annie

Re: *COMPLETED* 1861 Census help please

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:23 pm
by Jimmy
grangers14 wrote:Its a bit odd Annie, Timothy doesnt show up, well I couldnt see him but then was possibly married
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1865
GARBETT Timothy BUSWELL Emily Wednesbury, St Bartholomew Sandwell Register Office 32/4/173
Then living in Yorkshire

1861 May be Sophia in Bilston as a boarder and Barmaid.?


There isn't a birth reg for a Timothy Garbett any where.

Re: *COMPLETED* 1861 Census help please

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:40 pm
by Jimmy
1871. Greasbrough, Park Gate, Yorkshire.
Timothy Garbett 29. Iron Worker. Tipton, Staffordshire.
Emily Garbett 24. Bristol.
Anne M Garbett 4. Tipton.
Alfred Garbett 2. Bilstone, Worcestershire.
Bowen Adams 64. Boarder. Widow.

1881.
Timothy GARBETT Head M Male 39 Princes End, Stafford, England Ironwork
Emily GARBETT Wife M Female 33 Bristol, Somerset, England
Alfred GARBETT Son U Male 13 Bilston, Stafford, England Scholar
Clara I. GARBETT Daur U Female 7 Parkgate, York, England Scholar
Timothy GARBETT Son U Male 3 Parkgate, York, England

42 Holmflat St.
Rawmarsh, York.

1891. Parkgate, Rawmarsh, Yorkshire.
John Gregory 28.
Sarah A Gregory 31.
Lizzey Gregory 7.
Edward Gregory 1.
Timothy Gregory 50. Lodger. Iron Worker. Bilston, Staffordshire.
Clara Gregory 18. Lodger. Rais, Yorkshire.
Timothy Garby 14. Lodger. Rais, Yorkshire. Garbett on image.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:12 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Upper Princes End, Sedgley, Staffs
Benjamin Garbett 45. Coal miner.
Ann Garbett 35.
Daniel Garbett 15.
Elizabeth Garbett 13.
John Garbett 7.
Thomas Garbett 4.
Timothy Garbett 2.
Sophia Garbett 7 months.

All born in county.

Going by 1841 census,
Possible birth for Timothy.
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1839.
GARBETT (boy). Sedgley. Dudley. Register Office. SEG/006/93.

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1840.
GARBETT Sophia. Sedgley. Dudley Register Office. SEG/007/449.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:17 pm
by grangers14

Re: *COMPLETED* 1861 Census help please

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:33 pm
by grangers14
Some trees on ancestry have this family but I think they have gone wrong with the 1861 census. They have

1861. ? Row, Bilston
Ann Garbett, head, W, 49,
George, son, 25, miner
John, son, 23, shoe maker
Thomas, son, 21, miner
James, son, 13, miner
Sarah, daur, 10
all born Brosley Salop

BUT I think this is that family 1851.
1851. Dawley Green, Great Dawley shropshire
Thomas Garbett, head, 40, Iron worker
Ann, wife, 38,
Richard, son, 17, Iron miner
George, son, 15, iron miner
John, son, 15, miner
Thomas, son, 10, iron miner
Benjamin, son, 9,
James, son, 3
Sarah, daur, 3m
All born Dawley

Re: *COMPLETED* 1861 Census help please

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:38 pm
by Jimmy
I don't even look at the trees on Ancestry, I have seen that many mistakes in the past.