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Here goes. Any help welcome.

From documents I found in 2006 (put it to bed because I got stuck)!

Parish Handsworth
Ralph Clarke on 1901 census 4 yrs old -
His mother Jane 44 - i believe was a schoolmisttress
His father is Charles Clarke age 45 (b Glos) (timber merchant manager)I have his batism cert for 1855 - father Charles mother Hannah (Glos)

One record shows Charles' birthplace as Northleach Glos

I've have just rec'd a wedding cert for 1881 for Jane Cotrell (father Thomas - labourer) Charles' father was listed as Charles (boat builder) from the GRO but I think I may have gone wrong because my elderly mother has no recollection of a boat builder and thought her grt grandad was a farmer in the Cotswolds?

Is it best to follow my mother's memories or try and stick to records?

Have you got the birth certif then for Ralph did it give mother as Cotterill?

poss

Births Sep 1896
Clarke Ralph Aston 6d 448
Clarke Ralph Seymour W. Bromwich 6b 815

Births Jun 1898
Clarke Ralph Birmingham 6d 109

can someone post the 1911 census pls

Marriages Dec 1881
Bannister William King's N. 6c 803
Clarke Charles King's N. 6c 803
COTTRELL Jane King's N 6c 803
UNDERWOOD Mary King's N. 6c 803



Marriages Dec 1883
CLARKE Charles Aston 6d 557
CONNERLEY Elizabeth Aston 6d 557
JONES Arthur David Aston 6d 557
JONES Jane Aston 6d 557

Marriages Jun 1893
Clarke Charles King's N. 6c 752
Lapworth John Joseph King's N. 6c 752
Randall Jane King's N. 6c 752
Withey Susan King's N. 6c 752

not sure who married whom on above

1911 will show how long married
birth certif for Ralph will have mothers name
so then you know which marriage is the correct one

flipflop wrote:Me neither. Should I get the other 2 mrg certs from GRO. Costly business. I do know that Jane was a school mistress and Jane Cotterell fits!

Household: 1881

Nathan Edwin DIXON Head M Male 37 Kings Cliffe, Northampton, England Commercial Clerk
Elizabeth Jane DIXON Wife M Female 37 Chessington, Surrey, England
Harriett Annie DIXON Daur Female 8 Oundle, Northampton, England Scholar
Lucy Adela DIXON Daur Female 6 Oundle, Northampton, England Scholar
Arthur Edwin Goodacre DIXON Son Male 4 Oundle, Northampton, England Scholar
Nathan Egbert DIXON Son Male 2 Oundle, Northampton, England
Benjamin Frederick Ventries DIXON Son Male 7 m Oundle, Northampton, England
>>>>> Jane COTTERELL Boarder U Female 24 Harborne, Stafford, England Schoolmistress

No dont send yet ..... lets see what the 1911 shows it will show how long married

Charles on 1881 is boarder in Aston Clerk timber merchant
we need the other census too

Can someone post the 1881 1891 and 1901 and 1911 pls for Charles

bessie dau (b 1885) and Charles son 9b 1889) born aston

I have a paper copy of 1901 census I can scan in tomorrow

head Charles 45 c 1856
wife Jane 44
Bessie 16 - spinster when she died
Charles (RAF Canada Charles) 17
Ralph 4

Maid was Ada Roden and later was Lucy Potts. Jane was too old to look after Ralph!!

come on guys

where am ya!!
it is a corrie night .............Jimmy ....Jo ....annie
need census pls

can you post all the info on that marriage pls wits occup etc

1881 66 Witton Road Aston Warwickshire
Thomas H Green head wid 34 Chemist b Stourport Worcs.
Edith Green 8 scholar b Aston
Mary Timbs? sis in law unm 50 b Aston B'ham
Charles Clarke boarder un, 25 Clerk Timber Merchant Glouces

Sorry have that. 1901 census

head Charles 45 c 1856 manager timber merchant
wife Jane 44
Bessie 16 - spinster when she died
Charles (RAF Canada Charles) 17
Ralph 4

It's the head Charles I can't trace back......Mother says farm in Cotswolds. mrg cert for Jane and a Charles Clarke says CC. 1827 was boat builder.

Northern Lass wrote:Marriages Dec 1883
CLARKE Charles Aston 6d 557
CONNERLEY Elizabeth Aston 6d 557
JONES Arthur David Aston 6d 557
JONES Jane Aston 6d 557

Charles Clarke.
Groom's Birth Date: 1859.
Groom's Age: 24.
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Connerley.
Bride's Birth Date: 1859.
Bride's Age: 24.
Marriage Date: 07 Oct 1883.
Marriage Place: Sparkbrook, Warwick.
Groom's Father's Name: Henry Clarke.
Bride's Father's Name: James Connerley.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00731-9.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1520095.
Reference Number: it 3, p 177, no 353.

Northern Lass wrote:Marriages Dec 1881
Bannister William King's N. 6c 803
Clarke Charles King's N. 6c 803
COTTRELL Jane King's N 6c 803
UNDERWOOD Mary King's N. 6c 803

Charles Clarke.
Groom's Birth Date: 1855.
Groom's Age: 26.
Bride's Name: Jane Cottrell.
Bride's Birth Date: 1857.
Bride's Age: 24.
Marriage Date: 30 Nov 1881.
Marriage Place: Harborne, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Charles Clarke.
Bride's Father's Name: Thomas Cottrell.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00827-5.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1520000.
Reference Number: it 196, p 102, n 204.

Northern Lass wrote:come on guys

where am ya!!
it is a corrie night .............Jimmy ....Jo ....annie
need census pls

I'm still searching on the 1911 census , can't find a Charles and Ralph together , did Ralph go to live with someone Else.

Annie

Found this ???

1911 18 Hampton Road Handsworth Staffordshi
CLARKE, Charles Head Married M 55 1856 Timber Merchants Clerk Gloucester
CLARKE, Jane Wife Married
29 years F 54 1857 Harbourne Staffs
CLARKE, Ralph Seymour Son M 14 1897 School Handsworth Staffs

Annie