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Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:03 pm
by nessa
Is there anyway I can find out what happened to my husbands 3x great uncle Joseph Bloomer, I know he was transported to Australia in 1838 from the records on ancestry is there anywhere I can look for him in Australia. If he died there or came back to England.
Nessa
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:05 pm
by linell
Hi Nessa, if you post where and when he was born, I am sure someone with Australian Records will look him up for you, have you searched the Passenger Lists on Ancestry
Linell.
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:08 am
by nessa
Good morning, Joseph Bloomer was born 1816 Cradley Heath father Issac Bloomer mother Lucy, the records on ancestry say he was transported for 10 years to Sydney for stealing along with Fernando Shakespeare, isn't that a great name!!
Nessa
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:58 am
by MarkCDodd
He died in Parramatta, New South Wales in 1895.
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:00 am
by MarkCDodd
He was convicted on the 6th March 1838 at the Worcestershire assizes and travelled to Australia aboard the Convict Ship "Theresa".
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:11 am
by MarkCDodd
I can't find any marriages for him and no births where he is the father.
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:00 pm
by nessa
Thank you Mark for the information, is it possible to access that information on ancestry.
Nessa
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:46 pm
by MarkCDodd
Some of that, if not all of it, should be on Ancestry.
I have a Convict database that gives me a lot of information but there was only the basics on Joseph.
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:51 pm
by linell
Hi Nessa, I have that family in my tree, some of them connect to me and Kaye:-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... mer-FamilyThey actually lived in Cradley Worcs not Cradley Heath Staffs. Issac's Wife Lucy was Lame according to the Vicar's Notes.
Linell.
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:50 pm
by nessa
Hello linell,
My husband is descended from Mary Ann Bloomer then Thomas Bills and David Kirton. What is the difference between Cradley/Cradley Heath?
Nessa
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:50 pm
by nessa
Hello linell,
My husband is descended from Mary Ann Bloomer then Thomas Bills and David Kirton. What is the difference between Cradley/Cradley Heath?
Nessa
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:11 pm
by nessa
Hi linell,
Looking on the prison hulk record for Joseph it looks as if Joseph was married with 2 children, do you know if he married, I have sent an email to try and get a copy of his ticket of leave issued in 1844, perhaps he sent for his family to join him.
Nessa
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:26 pm
by linell
Hi Nessa, Cradley Heath comes under Rowley Regis was/is in Staffordshire. Across the River, only about 1 mile away is Cradley Worcs. Cradley Heath got it's name as it was a Heath Land before people started settling there, think I am right in saying that Cradley Worcs was an older settlement, hence the other Cradley became Cradley Heath. I haven't got anything on Joseph except his baptism. Will have a look through my Parish Registers, in case he Married before 1838, trouble is that name is quite common.
Linell.
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:49 pm
by linell
Sorry Nessa, no marriage for Joseph that I can see, nothing more on him in Cradley.
Linell.
Re: Joseph Bloomer
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:14 pm
by MarkCDodd
I would start by ordering Joseph's death certificate from here....
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htmYou will find one Joseph Bloomer listed, died 1895 in Parammatta.
Australian death certificates have far more information on than their English counterparts. Unfortunately his parents arn't listed (otherwise they would appear in the online index) but any marriages and children should be.
I looked though the New South Wales indexes for any Bloomer deaths that have Joseph Bloomer as their parent. None are listed.
For New South Wales I would need to know the married name of any daughters to do the same. In Victoria I could just search for anybody whose father was Joseph Bloomer.
I will check other states just in case...