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COMPLTED...........Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823-----NL adding

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:30 pm
by Northern Lass
father looks like Harry? green grocer on marriage

witness Abiatthus??? Harper

can we find a bapt for her pls

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1838

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:22 am
by Northern Lass
Sorry got birth wrong :oops:

she marries 1838 born 1823

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =608604691

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:03 am
by MarkCDodd
Not this one...

Name: Elizth. Harper
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 14 Jul 1822
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date: 03 Mar 1824
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Harry Harper
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04014-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 378767
Reference Number:

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:07 am
by Northern Lass
It could be those death dates I have found are sometimes incorrect.

any sibs?

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:40 am
by MarkCDodd
Mary 1813
Maria 1815
Abiathar 1817
John 1819
Ann 1820
Sarah 1824
Jane 1826
Harriot 1828 died 1829
Henry 1830
Emma 1831
William 1834 died 1837
Joseph 1835
Joshua 1836

Mother is Sarah Blackman

Parents married 1813 at St Thomas.

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:40 am
by Northern Lass
MarkCDodd wrote:Mary 1813
Maria 1815
Abiathar 1817
John 1819
Ann 1820
Sarah 1824
Jane 1826
Harriot 1828 died 1829
Henry 1830
Emma 1831
William 1834 died 1837
Joseph 1835
Joshua 1836

Mother is Sarah Blackman

Parents married 1813 at St Thomas.


All st thomas those bapts?

look at that name
Abiathar! that is witness

this is her and family

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:41 am
by Northern Lass
Ok can we find any of those kids with Harry and Sarah on census pls

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823-----NL adding

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:52 pm
by MarkCDodd
Here is a Joseph staying with Abiathar.

1851 census transcription details for: Hall Street, Dudley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 2033 Folio: 139 Page: 7

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Dudley
Parish: Dudley Enum. District: 1A
Ecclesiastical District: St Edmunds City/Municipal Borough: Dudley
Address: Hall Street, Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HARPER, Abiathar Head Married M 34 1817 Beer Retailer Dudley Worcestershire
HARPER, Esther Wife Married F 37 1814 Netherton Worcestershire
HARPER, Edward Son M 13 1838 Scholar Dudley Worcestershire
HARPER, Joseph Visitor M 16 1835 Fruiterers Son Dudley Worcestershire
SMITH, Martha Servant Unmarried F 23 1828 House Servant BewdleyWorcestershire
FOULKES, James Servant Unmarried M 18 1833 House Servant (Brewer) Nunningham Oxfordshire

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823-----NL adding

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:02 pm
by MarkCDodd
Maybe that Joseph is a cousin and not a brother. Son of this couple.

1851 census transcription details for: Stafford Street, St Thomas, Dudley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 2032 Folio: 445 Page: 10

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Dudley
Parish: St Thomas Enum. District: 1Q
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Stafford Street, St Thomas, Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
HARPER, Henry Head Married M 38 1813 Fruiterer Dudley
HARPER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1817 Fruiterer Wife Dudley
HARPER, John Son Unmarried M 10 1841 Scholar Dudley
HARPER, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 8 1843 Scholar Dudley
HARPER, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848 Scholar Dudley
HARPER, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 1 1850 Dudley

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823-----NL adding

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:23 pm
by MarkCDodd
Okay...looking at The Genalogist whichhas a bit more detail on the baptism than FamilySearch....

Name: Elizabeth Harper
Father's Name: Harry Harper
Mother's Name: Sarah Harper
Date of Baptism: 14 July 1822
Parent's Occupation: Fruiterer
Abode: Dudley
Parish: Dudley St. Thomas

So we know that Harry married to Sarah was a Grocer/Fruiterer.

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823-----NL adding

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:27 pm
by MarkCDodd
Groom's Name: Harry Harper
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace: Of Dudley
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Sarah Blackham
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace: Of Dudley
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 15 Aug 1813
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00981-8
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 350487
Reference Number: p30 n88

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823-----NL adding

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:21 pm
by Northern Lass
great ....see those deaths are not always correct I have found quite a few like that

so are those bapts all st thomas?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =147582385

Re: Elizabeth Harper b abt 1823-----NL adding

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:21 pm
by MarkCDodd
Yes, St Thomas.