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Thx NL for the marriage lookup of Thomas Willetts m to Maria Tromans, have been adding these to BCC and I've now run into a wee brick wall and would appreciate help with Thomas's father - Eli Willetts a Mason, I see several Eli's but can't make the connection to Thomas.. here's the lookup and link..

Marriage info
1871 26 Feb St Giles Rowley Regis
-Thomas Willetts- 25- bach- chainmaker- Reddall Hill- Eli Willetts- Mason
-Maria Tromans-25-spinster-Reddall Hill-Isaac Tromans- nailer
banns
X of both
Wit- Isaac Tromans X and Elizabeth Tromans X

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =192226087

Hi FS,
I have an Eli Willetts, b. abt 1823, on my tree, probably brother to Ann Willetts here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&rand=299637893&pid=5803

They are on the census here:
1851 Census
At Four Ways, Rowley Regis
Emanuel Woodhouse Head 30 Chain Maker b. Rowley Regis
Ann Woodhouse Wife 29 b. Rowley Regis (nee Willetts)
Mary Woodhouse Daur 4 b. Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Woodhouse Daur 3 b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Woodhouse Son 1 b. Rowley Regis
Eli Willetts Lodger 28 b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Willetts Lodger 12 b. Rowley Regis
Samuel Rose Lodger 22 b, Worcester, Dudley

My data suggests that the parents of Ann and Eli were John & Elizabeth Willetts (don't know her maiden name)

dianel wrote:Hi FS,
I have an Eli Willetts, b. abt 1823, on my tree, probably brother to Ann Willetts here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&rand=299637893&pid=5803

They are on the census here:
1851 Census
At Four Ways, Rowley Regis
Emanuel Woodhouse Head 30 Chain Maker b. Rowley Regis
Ann Woodhouse Wife 29 b. Rowley Regis (nee Willetts)
Mary Woodhouse Daur 4 b. Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Woodhouse Daur 3 b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Woodhouse Son 1 b. Rowley Regis
Eli Willetts Lodger 28 b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Willetts Lodger 12 b. Rowley Regis
Samuel Rose Lodger 22 b, Worcester, Dudley

My data suggests that the parents of Ann and Eli were John & Elizabeth Willetts (don't know her maiden name)

but where thomas he should be about 5 on this census ?

dianel wrote:
My data suggests that the parents of Ann and Eli were John & Elizabeth Willetts (don't know her maiden name)

Could this be their Marriage?

John Willettts Elizabeth Harper 04 SEP 1821 Saint Peter Or Collegiate, Wolverhampton, Stafford

peterd wrote:

dianel wrote:Hi FS,
I have an Eli Willetts, b. abt 1823, on my tree, probably brother to Ann Willetts here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&rand=299637893&pid=5803

They are on the census here:
1851 Census
At Four Ways, Rowley Regis
Emanuel Woodhouse Head 30 Chain Maker b. Rowley Regis
Ann Woodhouse Wife 29 b. Rowley Regis (nee Willetts)
Mary Woodhouse Daur 4 b. Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Woodhouse Daur 3 b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Woodhouse Son 1 b. Rowley Regis
Eli Willetts Lodger 28 b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Willetts Lodger 12 b. Rowley Regis
Samuel Rose Lodger 22 b, Worcester, Dudley

My data suggests that the parents of Ann and Eli were John & Elizabeth Willetts (don't know her maiden name)

but where thomas he should be about 5 on this census ?

hmmm good point Pete

are there any other marriages for an Eli Willetts?
have we a bapt at all for thomas
mason is a specific occup
wot is the occup of that Eli on the 1851?

Is this any use?

Marriage 1862
WILLETTS Eli DUNN Mary Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/475

think that is too late cos son Thomas is b abt 1845/6

Ahhh! Oh well.....I suppose I should have checked

Thx guys.. just don't see any connection for Thomas Willetts, seems he and wife Maria (nee Tromans) disappear after the 71.

Had a look at this entry unfortunately states Eli is unmarried, Thomas was b abt 1846

1851 Census
At Four Ways, Rowley Regis
Emanuel Woodhouse Head 30 Chain Maker b. Rowley Regis
Ann Woodhouse Wife 29 b. Rowley Regis (nee Willetts)
Mary Woodhouse Daur 4 b. Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Woodhouse Daur 3 b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Woodhouse Son 1 b. Rowley Regis
Eli Willetts Lodger 28 b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Willetts Lodger 12 b. Rowley Regis
Samuel Rose Lodger 22 b, Worcester, Dudley

What do you think about this one.. I see who I think maybe this Hannah on the 51 a Widow but no Thomas

Submitted
ELI ZEHI WILLETTS
Spouse: HANNAH OR MRS WILLETTS
Marriage: About 1830 Dudley

Have we found Thomas b abt 1846 pre marriage anywhere?

Poss
1851
Isaiah Willetts 53
Mary Willetts 56
Eliza Willetts 27 - unmarried
Mary Willetts 20 - unmarried
Samuel Willetts 16 - unmarried
Pheobe Willetts 14
Caroline Willetts 8
Thomas Willetts 7 - out wed - Grandson inlaw?
all b Cradley

Most of the family are on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =789459979

then on the 61 there's 2 entries..

1861
217
Lumbans Bank, Cradley
Isaiah Willetts 65
Mary Willetts 63
Caroline Willetts 17
Thomas Willetts 16 - Grandson
Neri Willetts 9

this one is more likely due to the location, Thomas and wife were living at Bowling green on the 71
1861
55
Bowling Green, Dudley
Sarah Johnson 68 - Widow
Joseph Willets 16 - Miner
Thomas Willets 14
all b Rowley

Neri Willetts where was that mentioned recently?

So did a Sarah Willetts marry a Johnson and prev an Eli Willetts marry a sarah ?

I don't see anything that fits date wise. Maybe Sarah was Eli's mother and remarried a Johnson, that would work cause on the 61 Thomas and Joseph are grandsons. However I don't see a marriage for Sarah Willetts to a Johnson

Neri, Isaiah & Mary, and Thomas on BCC here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=2275&rand=515421941

For some reason, in my database, I have this Thomas as marrying and Emma Something.

If you're looking for an Eli Willetts, Mason, don't disregard any bricklayers as I have seen them interchangeable in some census.

dianel wrote:Neri, Isaiah & Mary, and Thomas on BCC here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=2275&rand=515421941

For some reason, in my database, I have this Thomas as marrying and Emma Something.

If you're looking for an Eli Willetts, Mason, don't disregard any bricklayers as I have seen them interchangeable in some census.

So this Eli we still dont know who his parents are.... he is not the one unmarried as a lodger so parents not John and Elizabeth

he is not the one with bro Neri and this is prob the family of this lot.....
1861
217
Lumbans Bank, Cradley
Isaiah Willetts 65
Mary Willetts 63
Caroline Willetts 17
Thomas Willetts 16 - Grandson
Neri Willetts 9

FS said....this one is more likely due to the location, Thomas and wife were living at Bowling green on the 71
1861
55
Bowling Green, Dudley
Sarah Johnson 68 - Widow
Joseph Willets 16 - Miner
Thomas Willets 14
all b Rowley

that looks good.... and Sarah is prob the grandma so can we find her on prev census
or a bapt for Eli and mother Sarah?
think i am losing the plot....