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ARC TBC - Ellen Leyshon - Rowlands Gill - Co Durham

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:28 pm
by nich
Hello

I've been researching my family tree for the past few months, i've found quite a few bits with Ancestry but i am having a problem with my great grandmother, it's seem apart from when she married my Great grandfather she never existed!

Her marriage certificate states that she married on the 1st September 1917, her maiden name as being Ellen Leyshon, a Spinster, 21 at the time and living in indive House (?), Rowlands Gill, Winlation, Co Durham.
She married Thomas Hathaway (1888 - 1925) who was 28 at the time and a coal miner.
Her fathers name states as being William Leyshon who was deceased at the time of marriage.

I've tried to put in different spellings of her surname but i can't find any birth records, Census records and Ancestry is only really bring up Welsh links but the dates birth wise look wrong.

Also looking at my grandfathers RAF service record it looks like she re married and became S E Shield. I am not sure where the initial S has came from though, and i can't find a marriage certificate.

Please would anyone be able to help me locate a birth certificate or something to help me get past this block?
I'd be very grateful.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Ellen Leyshon - Rowlands Gill - Co Durham

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:21 pm
by cid
Marriage ? 1931 Apr-May-Jun
SHIELD, John W married HATHAWAY, Sarah E

Gateshead Durham 10A 1833

There is this birth, but it's in Wales

LEYSHON Sarah Ellen Wales Glamorganshire, Pontypridd 1897

??? 1901 Census Old Post Office Row Nicholl Terrace, Llantrisant, Gilfach Goch

LEYSHON William Head Married M 48 1853 Coal Miner Hewer Tonyrefail Glamorganshire
LEYSHON Fanny Wife Married F 32 1869 Tonyrefail Glamorganshire
LEYSHON Evan Son Single M 18 1883 Coal Miner Hewer Tonyrefail Glamorganshire
LEYSHON Edward Son Single M 10 1891 School Boy Tonyrefail Glamorganshire
LEYSHON Rebecca Daughter Single F 8 1893 School Girl Tonyrefail Glamorganshire
LEYSHON Margaret Daughter Single F 6 1895 School Girl Tonyrefail Glamorganshire
LEYSHON Sarah Daughter Single F 4 1897 School Girl Tonyrefail Glamorganshire

Re: Ellen Leyshon - Rowlands Gill - Co Durham

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:41 pm
by grangers14
I think Rowlands Gill is Winlaton Durham.
You could really do with 1911 for her.
Who are the witnesses to the marriage?
Jo :)

Re: Ellen Leyshon - Rowlands Gill - Co Durham

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:55 pm
by MarkCDodd
Cid has it right.

She was Sarah Ellen Leyshon but used the name Ellen.

Not uncommon. My dad uses his middle name.

I would say this is her in 1911 but the head of the household has given the enumerator the wrong middle name.

1911 census transcription details for: 27 Cymer Road Porth
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN32309 RG78PN1852 RD589 SD3 ED17 SN32

Reg. District: Pontypridd Sub District: Llantrisant
Parish: Rhondda Enum. District: 17
Address: 27 Cymer Road Porth
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HEALEY, George T Head Single M 31 1880 Coal Miner Hewer Glamorganshire
HEALEY, Mary A Sister Single F 24 1887 Glamorganshire
HEALEY, John Brother Single M 20 1891 Coal Miner Hewer Glamorganshire
HEALEY, William Brother Single M 18 1893 Coal Miner Hewer Glamorganshire
COX, Clifford Nephew M 2 1909 Glamorganshire
COX, Percival Nephew M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Glamorganshire
LEYSHON, Sarah Ann Servant Single F 15 1896 Glamorganshire

Her brothers and sisters

1911 census transcription details for: 16 Bethania Street Maesteg Glam
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN32537 RG78PN1858 RD591 SD1 ED12 SN289

Reg. District: Bridgend Sub District: Maesteg
Parish: Cwmdu Enum. District: 12
Address: 16 Bethania Street Maesteg Glam
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
LEYSHON, Evan Head Married M 25 1886 Boarding House Keeper Glamorgan Gilfutcwh
LEYSHON, Ellen Wife Married 1 years F 23 1888 Assist In Neweth Tredgar
LEYSHON, Maggie Sister Single F 18 1893 Domestic General Servant Glam Gilfishcoch
LEYSHON, Edward Brother Single M 21 1890 Laboure General Glam Gilfishcoch
DRISCOTT, Mary Ann Sister In Law Widow F 59 1852 Charwoman Breconshire Cafn
WELSH, Peter Boarder Single M 54 1857 Coal Haulier Underground At Sea
MCGUIRE, John Boarder Single M 54 1857 Labourer General Co Gulmy Town
LEYSHON, Emma Son M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Glamorgan Maesteg

Re: Ellen Leyshon - Rowlands Gill - Co Durham

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:01 am
by MarkCDodd
Probably her father's death

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: LEYSHON, William
Registration District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorganshire
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 54
Volume No: 11A
Page No: 349

Re: Ellen Leyshon - Rowlands Gill - Co Durham

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:03 am
by MarkCDodd
Her death?

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: SHIELD, Sarah Ellen
Registration District: Durham Northern
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1975
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Date of Birth: 29 November 1897
Volume No: 1
Page No: 1351

Re: Ellen Leyshon - Rowlands Gill - Co Durham

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:42 pm
by nich
Wow thanks for the help everybody, its much appreciated.

Re: Ellen Leyshon - Rowlands Gill - Co Durham

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:28 pm
by BC Wench
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

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