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Hi , I am still looking for Grandma Henrietta Tooth and her mother also Henrietta Tooth on the1901 census. Her Dad William Tooth has been found at the Horseshoe Inn Waterfall Lane, Old Hill with relatives called Gadd. I am sure the whole family had returned from America but where were the 2 Henriettas? On another occasion Tooth was mistranscribed as Footh and on the 1911 census Henrietta has been recorded as a female called Henry Hetta !
I have banged my head against this brick wall many a time-help please.

Hi Carol
Do you have a dob for Henrietta..

Cheers

Hi Farside,

Grandma Henrietta was born 09/12/1895 in Somverville, Boston , Massacussettes. William her father and Henrietta her mother lived out there for a few years and some of their children were born out there but I know William was back by 1901. William and Henrietta married 1883 and left for America on a ship called Scythia in 1889
Henrietta Bate nee Lowe was born 27/06/1861
Henrietta Tooth died 01/03/09 Highfield Road Blackeath aged 46
I have a letter from a relative to say that the family were in Wrights Lane, Old Hill after America and before Highfield Road.

this here marriage ?

Marriages Dec 1921

Tooth Henrietta A Bate Stourbridge 6c 14


for what reason are you looking for the 1901 ,1911 census for if you do have the marriage detial above and you have a birth cert ?

have you check the 1900 census in america just in case william came back first ?

Hi Peter,

Thanks -yes I have the marriage and you have found the right one. I have just entered a few dates on TP this morning including that one I think.
It is really just trying to add flesh to the bones so to speak. Dad is curious to know where his mother lived and it is strange to have found William alone and we want to know why.
I have not checked 1900 census in America. Is it possible for anyone to do this?
Would William have been kicked out during confinement for Henritta for example? or perhaps stying with sick relatives

When and were was William born.

Here are the family on Black Country Connections...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =984931854

Hi Carol,
Under the name TROTH
1900 census it looks like they are in Somerville city, Middlesex, Massachusetts.

William Troth born 1860, England
Henrietta, born 1861.
Plus 5 children.

If you pm me your e-mail I can send a copy to you.

so if the 1900 census is correct then did william return before henrietta to find work and somewhere to live or did the return together ? wonder if any ship log for america to england 1900 -1901 ?

The American census was taken on 12 June 1900.

Extracted.

Henrietta A. Tooth.
Birth, 09 DEC 1895. Somerville, Middlesex, Massachusetts

Parents:
William
Henrietta Lowe.

Hi Jimmy,
seem to have lost my reply so I will redo it.
thank you so much- that is an amazing discovery and definitely the right family-everything fits in dates of birth and children. I am so pleased with this discovery-thank you so much Yet another transcript error-Sherlock Holmes would be impressed with me tracking this lot down
This narrows down the time span for them to have returned to England.For William & maybe the others from June 1900 to census night 1901 .
I have the outbound shipping records from Liverpool to Boston and although on the same list William is recorded on a different page to Henrietta. This seems odd as you would expect them to travel and board together on such a journey. I have not been able to find any shipping lists from Boston to almost certainly Liverpool

What is the "extracted" piece above?. This is the right Henrietta as Lowe was her maiden name


I have pm'd you my e-mail

William Tooth was born 24/9/1860 Horton Street Sams Lane West Bromwich

nice work Jimmy!
I am moving this to General Discussion now as Jimmy has knocked down the brick wall....

so the thread can carry on there.... when completed I will move to black country archived section

Hi Carol,
Its from FAMILYSEARCH,

If you click on this link it should bring up the searh page, just press search.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... search.asp

Yes thanks found it now Jimmy- not heard the Middlesex bit before-Somerville, Middlesex, Boston, Massachussettes -what a mouthful